Re: [sixties-l] Re: Nader Fiasco

From: William M. Mandel (
Date: 11/29/00

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    I agree with your point but not your documentation. The Republicans and
    Democrats are not Hitler and Goebbels. I am not speaking of the degree
    of difference, but the difference between capitalist democracy and
    fascism. Under the latter, we'd be in jail and tortured, maybe shot, for
    these messages.
           To condemn the German CP for not having accepted the
    Social-Democratic position whole (the only terms under which the latter
    would accept unity -- simply backing them) and then condemning Wellstone
    for being no better than Bush is self-contradictory. Wellstone is wrong
    in backing Gore. He is no Bush.
    William Mandel
    Carrol Cox wrote:
    > Richard Schneirov wrote:
    > >  Nader voters hurt their closest
    > > friends and helped their enemies.
    > >
    > > But, sometimes the lessons of history have to be relearned.
    > We have no friends in either of the parties. To speak of being
    > between them is as silly as to speak of being between Hitler
    > and Goebbels. There will be no progressive movement, no
    > substantial reforms, not breaking of the War on Crime
    > (currently the greatest evil domestically) until the Democratic
    > Party is utterly discredited. The Democratic Party is not
    > by any conceivable fantasy parallel to the German Social
    > Democratic Party. The German CP made a political error
    > in the late 20s and early 30s with its "Social Fascism" line.
    > Scattered progressives in the United States today are making
    > an almost equally great error by their absurd fantasy that
    > they have friends in the Democratic Party. Wellstone is
    > ultimately no better than Bush.
    > Nader saw that. The parallel today to the German CP of
    > the '30s consists of those progressives who did not fall
    > in behind Nader.
    > Carrol

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