[tei-council] [tei:bugs] #617 <num> not a part of att.segLike (and thus of att.fragmentable)

[Fabio Ciotti]

I would close this ticket with a rejection since my arguments have
been accepted or not refuted.

FC

2014-05-27 11:12 GMT+02:00 Fabio Ciotti <fabio.ciotti at uniroma2.it>:
> In general I would say no, since I don't think the TEI schema should
> change so deeply for the requirements of a single user, especially if
> there is a reasonable solution inside the actual schema. But if you
> feel it would be nice to contact the submitter personally I can do it
> (anyway many months have passed and probably they did find a
> solution).
>
> Fabio
>
> 2014-05-22 17:27 GMT+02:00 Martin Holmes <mholmes at uvic.ca>:
>> Should we contact the submitter to see whether they have any good
>> arguments that make nesting <w>, <phr> or <seg> inside <num> to solve
>> the problem an inadequate solution?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
>>
>> On 14-05-22 05:37 AM, Peter Stadler wrote:
>>> Sounds reasonable.
>>> +1 for rejecting
>>>
>>> Am 22.05.2014 um 12:39 schrieb Fabio Ciotti <fabio.ciotti at UNIROMA2.IT>:
>>>
>>>> My opinion is to reject the request since:
>>>>
>>>> 1) the same happens for many phrase level elements with similar
>>>> semantic functions as <date> or <measure> etc. For simmetry we should
>>>> change them all
>>>> 2) <w> is (should) be used to carry morpho-syntactic features of its
>>>> content, whil <num> bears a semantic tract of its content, so they
>>>> have different markup semantic
>>>> 3) there is a fairly simple solution for both the issues, that is
>>>> nesting <w> or <phr> inside <num>
>>>> 4) in the worst case the issue can be faced with a local extension of
>>>> TEI scheme.
>>>>
>>>> Fabio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> assigned_to: Fabio Ciotti
>>>> Comment:
>>>>
>>>> Assigning to Fabio Ciotti for triage, reporting to council, and implementation
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> [bugs:#617] <num> not a part of att.segLike (and thus of att.fragmentable)
>>>>
>>>> Status: open
>>>> Group: AMBER
>>>> Created: Tue Oct 29, 2013 09:39 PM UTC by Ville Marttila
>>>> Last Updated: Tue Oct 29, 2013 09:39 PM UTC
>>>> Owner: Fabio Ciotti
>>>>
>>>> Considering that the element <num> is parallel to the element <w> in
>>>> annotating a number, which can from a linguistic point of view be
>>>> considered a word-level unit, it should also belong to the att.segLike
>>>> class. This would not only provide it with the @function attribute for
>>>> annotating its syntactic function but would also include it in the
>>>> att.fragmentable class, allowing the annotation of incomplete numbers
>>>> (esp. Roman numerals which are often quite long and can easily be
>>>> partially lost).
>>>>
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