[tei-council] [tei:bugs] #617 <num> not a part of att.segLike (and thus of att.fragmentable)

[Martin Holmes]

+1 from me.

Cheers,
Mrtin

On 14-06-26 04:25 AM, Fabio Ciotti wrote:
> I would close this ticket with a rejection since my arguments have
> been accepted or not refuted.
>
> FC
>
> 2014-05-27 11:12 GMT+02:00 Fabio Ciotti <fabio.ciotti at uniroma2.it>:
>> In general I would say no, since I don't think the TEI schema should
>> change so deeply for the requirements of a single user, especially if
>> there is a reasonable solution inside the actual schema. But if you
>> feel it would be nice to contact the submitter personally I can do it
>> (anyway many months have passed and probably they did find a
>> solution).
>>
>> Fabio
>>
>> 2014-05-22 17:27 GMT+02:00 Martin Holmes <mholmes at uvic.ca>:
>>> Should we contact the submitter to see whether they have any good
>>> arguments that make nesting <w>, <phr> or <seg> inside <num> to solve
>>> the problem an inadequate solution?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On 14-05-22 05:37 AM, Peter Stadler wrote:
>>>> Sounds reasonable.
>>>> +1 for rejecting
>>>>
>>>> Am 22.05.2014 um 12:39 schrieb Fabio Ciotti <fabio.ciotti at UNIROMA2.IT>:
>>>>
>>>>> My opinion is to reject the request since:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) the same happens for many phrase level elements with similar
>>>>> semantic functions as <date> or <measure> etc. For simmetry we should
>>>>> change them all
>>>>> 2) <w> is (should) be used to carry morpho-syntactic features of its
>>>>> content, whil <num> bears a semantic tract of its content, so they
>>>>> have different markup semantic
>>>>> 3) there is a fairly simple solution for both the issues, that is
>>>>> nesting <w> or <phr> inside <num>
>>>>> 4) in the worst case the issue can be faced with a local extension of
>>>>> TEI scheme.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fabio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> assigned_to: Fabio Ciotti
>>>>> Comment:
>>>>>
>>>>> Assigning to Fabio Ciotti for triage, reporting to council, and implementation
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> [bugs:#617] <num> not a part of att.segLike (and thus of att.fragmentable)
>>>>>
>>>>> Status: open
>>>>> Group: AMBER
>>>>> Created: Tue Oct 29, 2013 09:39 PM UTC by Ville Marttila
>>>>> Last Updated: Tue Oct 29, 2013 09:39 PM UTC
>>>>> Owner: Fabio Ciotti
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering that the element <num> is parallel to the element <w> in
>>>>> annotating a number, which can from a linguistic point of view be
>>>>> considered a word-level unit, it should also belong to the att.segLike
>>>>> class. This would not only provide it with the @function attribute for
>>>>> annotating its syntactic function but would also include it in the
>>>>> att.fragmentable class, allowing the annotation of incomplete numbers
>>>>> (esp. Roman numerals which are often quite long and can easily be
>>>>> partially lost).
>>>>>
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