[tei-council] Standardi[s|z]ation

Kevin Hawkins kevin.s.hawkins at ultraslavonic.info
Sun Jan 27 12:39:46 EST 2013


I have added this rule to

http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Council/Working/tcw24.xml

--Kevin

On 2/26/2012 9:34 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
> Further to my rather cryptic comment below: my recommendation is
>
> a) look up the word in the OED
> b) if it says that both -IZE and -ISE forms are usable, use the -IZE form.
> c) otherwise use the -ISE form.
>
>
> n 25/02/12 18:42, Lou Burnard wrote:
>> Michael Quinnion is good on this, (as on many other things)
>>
>>     http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ise1.htm
>>
>> The -IZE suffix only applize to words which (etymologically speaking)
>> come to use from a Latinized version of a Greek suffix. That's the
>> rationale given by the OED anyway.
>>
>> I don't think we should be guided by "instinct" here. Look em up.
>>
>>
>> On 25/02/12 18:18, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> One of Jens's excellent proofing reports suggests that we standardize
>>> spellings ending in -ise/-ize. I'm inclined to agree, and with -ise
>>> looking a bit beleaguered these days, I think it should be -ize. Lou
>>> agrees, on the ticket.
>>>
>>> So I ran this regex to see what we have:
>>>
>>> is((e[d|s]*)|(ing))\b
>>>
>>> It found 1529 instances, most of which aren't relevant ("otherwise",
>>> "raise" etc.). But amongst those which are, they don't all seem clear
>>> cut to me, though. I think these are uncontroversial:
>>>
>>> standardise
>>> normalise
>>> capitalise
>>> specialise
>>> summarise
>>> computerise
>>> italicise
>>> recognise
>>> regularise
>>> categorise
>>>
>>> But what about these? I feel instinctively less happy with changing
>>> these to z, for some reason:
>>>
>>> harmonise
>>> compromise
>>> analyse
>>> exercise
>>> utilise
>>>
>>> and I think these cannot be changed to z, even though, in many cases,
>>> variants with z are attested:
>>>
>>> comprise
>>> revise
>>> devise
>>> advise
>>> excise
>>>
>>> So what do your instincts tell you about these? Should we basically make
>>> a list of words which should use z, and put it in our style guide?
>>>
>>> Making the changes will be a significant job, because there are
>>> instances of similar words in French that mustn't be changed ("utilise",
>>> for instance). I think it'll best be done with XSLT (which can be
>>> language-aware, and ignore the French) and some very precise regexes.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>
>


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