[tei-council] TEI TITE question

[Martin Holmes]

I don't think I agree with this. As the Gentle Introduction to XML says, 
"XML is more interested in the meaning of data than in its 
presentation." We have lots of ways of encoding names because the 
variety of name types and the subtle distinctions between them are 
things that we're primarily interested in. In the same way, I think most 
encoders are (or perhaps should be?) more interested in why something is 
italic than in the fact that it is italic.

I agree with the point someone made earlier: the slight inconvenience of 
<hi rend="whatever"> is actually useful, because it makes us wonder why 
we're seeing this presentational feature, and perhaps pushes us in the 
direction of encoding it in some more meaningful way (<emph> or whatever).

Cheers,
Martin

On 12-05-08 07:06 AM, Kevin Hawkins wrote:
> No!
>
> We give people shortcut options like<name>  and<bibl>  instead of
> forcing them to think too much by using<forename>,<surname>, and
> <biblStruct>  because we know that for certain envisioned uses of the
> encoded document, these are perfectly sufficient.  How do we know that
> it's for someone's own good to distinguish various uses of italics?
>
> The situation we are in right now is as if the TEI had only:
>
> <forename>
> <surname>
> <rs type="name">
>
> but no:
>
> <name>
>
> (I understand the distinction Gabby made between semantic and
> presentational sugar, but now I'm talking about straightforwardness of
> encoding.)
>
> --K.
>
> On 5/8/2012 9:58 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
>> Exactly! and also to avoid thinking too much. Thought takes time and
>> costs money.
>>
>> On 08/05/12 14:43, Gabriel BODARD wrote:
>>> To save money on keystrokes, no?
>>>
>>> On 08/05/2012 13:52, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>>>> We shouldn't forget that the Tite extra tags must come from _somewhere_,
>>>> not just plucked at random from a fevered brain.  Why did that group feel these
>>>> were needed?
>>>> --
>>>> Sebastian Rahtz
>>>> Head of Information and Support Group
>>>> Oxford University Computing Services
>>>> 13 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 6NN. Phone +44 1865 283431
>>>>
>>>> Sólo le pido a Dios
>>>> que el futuro no me sea indiferente
>>>>
>>>
>>

-- 
Martin Holmes
University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre
(mholmes at uvic.ca)