[tei-council] <egXML> example

[Martin Holmes]

I just tried to submit a bug for this, and the Tracker appeared to 
accept it, but now it doesn't appear anywhere. I wonder if it's because 
I quoted the egXML code which has a CDATA section in it?

I'll try again later.

Cheers,
Martin

On 12-03-23 01:38 PM, Martin Holmes wrote:
> This is actually more complex than we thought:
>
> I'd actually missed the language mismatch error, because I was looking
> for something that was wrong with the use of<egXML>. But now I've
> looked at the source, I see this:
>
>     <exemplum xml:lang="en">
>       <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples" xml:lang="und"
> 	   valid="false">
> <![CDATA[
>         <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples">
>           <langUsage>
>             <language ident="fr">English</language>
>           </langUsage>
>         </egXML>
> <!-- Though syntactically valid, this example is incorrect -->
> ]]>
>       </egXML>
>     </exemplum>
>
> The purpose of the "incorrect" example seems to be to demonstrate the
> usage of the @valid attribute, here set to false. However, there's a
> use-mention problem in the rendering of the page, and the result is that
> instead of seeing how to flag an incorrect example as invalid, the
> example itself is flagged as invalid.
>
> At this point, my heart goes out to Sebastian, whose stylesheets are
> expected to be able to tell the difference between using an attribute
> designed to show that examples are invalid, on an example of an example,
> and exemplifying the use of that attribute. Ye gods and little fishes,
> as me old dad used to say.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
>
> On 12-03-23 12:56 PM, Rebecca Welzenbach wrote:
>> Part of Martin's question seems easy: in cases like this can we just
>> flip the examples around so a correct one appears first and an
>> incorrect one second (so we don't say what not to do without first
>> saying what to do).
>
>> But I am also confused about why this example is flagged as incorrect.
>> Although<language ident="fr">English</language>   is clearly wrong, I
>> would expect an example identified as "incorrect" to be wrong in the
>> way it uses the element it is demonstrating--not to have some other
>> error inside of it. Is there something wrong with how<egXML>   is being
>> used in this example?
>>
>> Becky
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Lou Burnard
>> <lou.burnard at retired.ox.ac.uk>   wrote:
>>> I think Martins question wasnt so much what's wrong as why is a wrong example here.   The answer is because we wanted to test the mechanism which renders wrong examples colourfully I believe.
>>> Sent from my HTC
>>>
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Paul F. Schaffner"<PFSchaffner at umich.edu>
>>> To: "Martin Holmes"<mholmes at uvic.ca>
>>> Cc: "TEI Council"<tei-council at lists.village.virginia.edu>
>>> Subject: [tei-council]<egXML>   example
>>> Date: Fri, Mar 23, 2012 19:20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Umm, because "fr" does not stand for "English" ?
>>>
>>> pfs
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there,
>>>>
>>>> Why is the first example on this page flagged as incorrect?
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-egXML.html>
>>>>
>>>> I don't actually see what's wrong with it, but even if it is wrong, it's
>>>> mightily confusing to have as the first example of an element
>>>> proclaiming itself as incorrect, surely? What am I missing?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Martin
>>>>
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