[tei-council] <egXML> example

[Martin Holmes]

This is actually more complex than we thought:

I'd actually missed the language mismatch error, because I was looking 
for something that was wrong with the use of <egXML>. But now I've 
looked at the source, I see this:

   <exemplum xml:lang="en">
     <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples" xml:lang="und"
	   valid="false">
<![CDATA[
       <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples">
         <langUsage>
           <language ident="fr">English</language>
         </langUsage>
       </egXML>
<!-- Though syntactically valid, this example is incorrect -->
]]>
     </egXML>
   </exemplum>

The purpose of the "incorrect" example seems to be to demonstrate the 
usage of the @valid attribute, here set to false. However, there's a 
use-mention problem in the rendering of the page, and the result is that 
instead of seeing how to flag an incorrect example as invalid, the 
example itself is flagged as invalid.

At this point, my heart goes out to Sebastian, whose stylesheets are 
expected to be able to tell the difference between using an attribute 
designed to show that examples are invalid, on an example of an example, 
and exemplifying the use of that attribute. Ye gods and little fishes, 
as me old dad used to say.

Cheers,
Martin


On 12-03-23 12:56 PM, Rebecca Welzenbach wrote:
> Part of Martin's question seems easy: in cases like this can we just
> flip the examples around so a correct one appears first and an
> incorrect one second (so we don't say what not to do without first
> saying what to do).

> But I am also confused about why this example is flagged as incorrect.
> Although<language ident="fr">English</language>  is clearly wrong, I
> would expect an example identified as "incorrect" to be wrong in the
> way it uses the element it is demonstrating--not to have some other
> error inside of it. Is there something wrong with how<egXML>  is being
> used in this example?
>
> Becky
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Lou Burnard
> <lou.burnard at retired.ox.ac.uk>  wrote:
>> I think Martins question wasnt so much what's wrong as why is a wrong example here.   The answer is because we wanted to test the mechanism which renders wrong examples colourfully I believe.
>> Sent from my HTC
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Paul F. Schaffner"<PFSchaffner at umich.edu>
>> To: "Martin Holmes"<mholmes at uvic.ca>
>> Cc: "TEI Council"<tei-council at lists.village.virginia.edu>
>> Subject: [tei-council]<egXML>  example
>> Date: Fri, Mar 23, 2012 19:20
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Umm, because "fr" does not stand for "English" ?
>>
>> pfs
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Why is the first example on this page flagged as incorrect?
>>>
>>> <http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-egXML.html>
>>>
>>> I don't actually see what's wrong with it, but even if it is wrong, it's
>>> mightily confusing to have as the first example of an element
>>> proclaiming itself as incorrect, surely? What am I missing?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>>
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