[tei-council] <egXML> example

[Martin Holmes]

The missing bug mysteriously appeared:

<http://purl.org/TEI/BUGS/3510653>

Cheers,
Martin

On 12-03-23 01:56 PM, Martin Holmes wrote:
> I just tried to submit a bug for this, and the Tracker appeared to
> accept it, but now it doesn't appear anywhere. I wonder if it's because
> I quoted the egXML code which has a CDATA section in it?
>
> I'll try again later.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> On 12-03-23 01:38 PM, Martin Holmes wrote:
>> This is actually more complex than we thought:
>>
>> I'd actually missed the language mismatch error, because I was looking
>> for something that was wrong with the use of<egXML>. But now I've
>> looked at the source, I see this:
>>
>>      <exemplum xml:lang="en">
>>        <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples" xml:lang="und"
>> 	   valid="false">
>> <![CDATA[
>>          <egXML xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples">
>>            <langUsage>
>>              <language ident="fr">English</language>
>>            </langUsage>
>>          </egXML>
>> <!-- Though syntactically valid, this example is incorrect -->
>> ]]>
>>        </egXML>
>>      </exemplum>
>>
>> The purpose of the "incorrect" example seems to be to demonstrate the
>> usage of the @valid attribute, here set to false. However, there's a
>> use-mention problem in the rendering of the page, and the result is that
>> instead of seeing how to flag an incorrect example as invalid, the
>> example itself is flagged as invalid.
>>
>> At this point, my heart goes out to Sebastian, whose stylesheets are
>> expected to be able to tell the difference between using an attribute
>> designed to show that examples are invalid, on an example of an example,
>> and exemplifying the use of that attribute. Ye gods and little fishes,
>> as me old dad used to say.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> On 12-03-23 12:56 PM, Rebecca Welzenbach wrote:
>>> Part of Martin's question seems easy: in cases like this can we just
>>> flip the examples around so a correct one appears first and an
>>> incorrect one second (so we don't say what not to do without first
>>> saying what to do).
>>
>>> But I am also confused about why this example is flagged as incorrect.
>>> Although<language ident="fr">English</language>    is clearly wrong, I
>>> would expect an example identified as "incorrect" to be wrong in the
>>> way it uses the element it is demonstrating--not to have some other
>>> error inside of it. Is there something wrong with how<egXML>    is being
>>> used in this example?
>>>
>>> Becky
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Lou Burnard
>>> <lou.burnard at retired.ox.ac.uk>    wrote:
>>>> I think Martins question wasnt so much what's wrong as why is a wrong example here.   The answer is because we wanted to test the mechanism which renders wrong examples colourfully I believe.
>>>> Sent from my HTC
>>>>
>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>> From: "Paul F. Schaffner"<PFSchaffner at umich.edu>
>>>> To: "Martin Holmes"<mholmes at uvic.ca>
>>>> Cc: "TEI Council"<tei-council at lists.village.virginia.edu>
>>>> Subject: [tei-council]<egXML>    example
>>>> Date: Fri, Mar 23, 2012 19:20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Umm, because "fr" does not stand for "English" ?
>>>>
>>>> pfs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is the first example on this page flagged as incorrect?
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/ref-egXML.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't actually see what's wrong with it, but even if it is wrong, it's
>>>>> mightily confusing to have as the first example of an element
>>>>> proclaiming itself as incorrect, surely? What am I missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
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