[tei-council] support for P4

[Laurent Romary]

In any case I would be interested in knowing what the community expect as major changes n the TEI infrastructure. I also think, the council has a duty to constantly think ahead...;

Le 26 sept. 2011 à 18:06, Gabriel Bodard a écrit :

> Personally I'd like to downplay discussion of P6, which I don't think is 
> a useful concept at the moment. How about phrasing a question about how 
> major technological changes to and/or affecting TEI are at the 
> moment/the near future without mentioning "P6" by name?
> 
> G
> 
> On 2011-09-26 17:00, Laurent Romary wrote:
>> Kind-of interfering with JU's questionnaire, but why not. We would play our role by doing this.
>> 
>> 
>> Le 26 sept. 2011 à 17:50, Martin Holmes a écrit :
>> 
>>> I'd like to see something relating to P6:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I think that:
>>> 
>>>  - The TEI should focus only on revisions to P5 for next couple of years.
>>> 
>>>  - The TEI should begin soliciting ideas for the most substantial
>>> changes in P6.
>>> 
>>>  - The TEI should start working on a detailed plan for P6 immediately.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>> 
>>> On 11-09-26 03:39 AM, James Cummings wrote:
>>>> Back in June Council mostly seemed to agree that the timetable I
>>>> laid out below was sensible for de-emphasising TEI P4 a year
>>>> before we stop supporting it in November 2012.
>>>> 
>>>> In the next week or so I was going to post a message to TEI-L
>>>> explaining that from November 2011 we'll be de-emphasising TEI P4
>>>> on the website in preparation for its lack of support from
>>>> November 2012. I was going to include a surveymonkey survey at
>>>> the same time allowing feedback from the community to gauge the
>>>> strength of their dependence on or desire for support of TEI P4.
>>>> (As well as gather some other data.)
>>>> 
>>>> Questions that occur to me to include in this survey are below,
>>>> but if Council has any other suggestions, or corrections, let me
>>>> know in the next few days.
>>>> 
>>>> ====
>>>> Do you have projects still using TEI P4 that need support?
>>>> - I have active and ongoing projects using TEI P4 which will not
>>>> migrate to TEI P5
>>>> - I have active and ongoing projects using TEI P4 but I may
>>>> migrate these to TEI P5
>>>> - I continue to support legacy projects using TEI P4 which I
>>>> might migrate to TEI P5
>>>> - I continue to support legacy projects using TEI P4 which I
>>>> won't migrate to TEI P5
>>>> - I have legacy TEI P4 projects, but they need little support
>>>> - I have migrated any TEI P4 projects to TEI P5
>>>> - I have no TEI P4 projects needing support
>>>> 
>>>> How much should the TEI-C begin de-emphasise TEI P4 on the
>>>> website before November 2012?
>>>> - It should only be available from the TEI Vault and not
>>>> mentioned elsewhere
>>>> - It should only be available from the TEI Vault but existing
>>>> links redirected
>>>> - It should be available from the TEI Vault but seamlessly
>>>> mirrored in its current location
>>>> - It should not be moved to the Vault but remain where it is
>>>> 
>>>> Should search engines be dissuaded from indexing TEI P4?
>>>> - TEI P4 should not be indexed and links to it not followed
>>>> - TEI P4 should not be indexed
>>>> - TEI P4 should continue to be indexed
>>>> - TEI P4 should continue to be indexed and links to it followed
>>>> 
>>>> Have you used TEI P5 for a project?
>>>> - Yes
>>>> - No
>>>> - I'm about to
>>>> 
>>>> How many TEI P4 projects do you have?
>>>> - 0
>>>> - 1
>>>> - 2-5
>>>> - 6-15
>>>> - 16-30
>>>> - more than 30
>>>> 
>>>> How many TEI P5 projects do you have?
>>>> - 0
>>>> - 1
>>>> - 2-5
>>>> - 6-15
>>>> - 16-30
>>>> - more than 30
>>>> 
>>>> Have you submitted a Bug or Feature Request to the TEI?
>>>> - I have submitted both Bugs and Feature Requests directly on
>>>> Sourceforge
>>>> - I have submitted either a Bug or a Feature Request directly on
>>>> Sourceforge
>>>> - I have submitted either a Bug or a Feature Request via a TEI
>>>> Council member or other individual
>>>> - I have contributed to discussions on TEI-L which have informed
>>>> Bug or Feature Requests
>>>> - I have not contributed a Bug or Feature Request but intend to
>>>> - I have not contributed a Bug or Feature Request
>>>> - What are Bugs or Feature Requests?
>>>> ====
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Suggestions appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> -James
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 14/06/11 10:04, James Cummings wrote:
>>>>> Could I suggest that the appropriate time to have a de-emphasis
>>>>> of TEI P4 is in November 2011.  I suggest this because that is
>>>>> exactly one calendar year before we stop support for P4.  We
>>>>> promised 5 years ongoing support for TEI P4 from November 2007.
>>>>> In November 2011 we could de-emphasize it by doing the following
>>>>> things as Sebastian suggests:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Freeze any support of it except major bugs (if we've not done
>>>>> this already)
>>>>> - Demote its visibility in the TEI-C Website
>>>>> - Change the robots.txt to encourage search engines to forget
>>>>> about it.
>>>>> - Remind people that they have a year to stop using it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In November 2012 I'd suggest that it appears only in the Vault
>>>>> and that the TEI Guidelines page not have any mention of it. (As
>>>>> it has no mention of other versions like TEI P3, but does have a
>>>>> link to the TEI Archive which contains them).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Martin Holmes
>>> University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre
>>> (mholmes at uvic.ca)
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