[tei-council] support for P4

[Gabriel Bodard]

Personally I'd like to downplay discussion of P6, which I don't think is 
a useful concept at the moment. How about phrasing a question about how 
major technological changes to and/or affecting TEI are at the 
moment/the near future without mentioning "P6" by name?

G

On 2011-09-26 17:00, Laurent Romary wrote:
> Kind-of interfering with JU's questionnaire, but why not. We would play our role by doing this.
>
>
> Le 26 sept. 2011 à 17:50, Martin Holmes a écrit :
>
>> I'd like to see something relating to P6:
>>
>>
>> I think that:
>>
>>   - The TEI should focus only on revisions to P5 for next couple of years.
>>
>>   - The TEI should begin soliciting ideas for the most substantial
>> changes in P6.
>>
>>   - The TEI should start working on a detailed plan for P6 immediately.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
>>
>> On 11-09-26 03:39 AM, James Cummings wrote:
>>> Back in June Council mostly seemed to agree that the timetable I
>>> laid out below was sensible for de-emphasising TEI P4 a year
>>> before we stop supporting it in November 2012.
>>>
>>> In the next week or so I was going to post a message to TEI-L
>>> explaining that from November 2011 we'll be de-emphasising TEI P4
>>> on the website in preparation for its lack of support from
>>> November 2012. I was going to include a surveymonkey survey at
>>> the same time allowing feedback from the community to gauge the
>>> strength of their dependence on or desire for support of TEI P4.
>>> (As well as gather some other data.)
>>>
>>> Questions that occur to me to include in this survey are below,
>>> but if Council has any other suggestions, or corrections, let me
>>> know in the next few days.
>>>
>>> ====
>>> Do you have projects still using TEI P4 that need support?
>>> - I have active and ongoing projects using TEI P4 which will not
>>> migrate to TEI P5
>>> - I have active and ongoing projects using TEI P4 but I may
>>> migrate these to TEI P5
>>> - I continue to support legacy projects using TEI P4 which I
>>> might migrate to TEI P5
>>> - I continue to support legacy projects using TEI P4 which I
>>> won't migrate to TEI P5
>>> - I have legacy TEI P4 projects, but they need little support
>>> - I have migrated any TEI P4 projects to TEI P5
>>> - I have no TEI P4 projects needing support
>>>
>>> How much should the TEI-C begin de-emphasise TEI P4 on the
>>> website before November 2012?
>>> - It should only be available from the TEI Vault and not
>>> mentioned elsewhere
>>> - It should only be available from the TEI Vault but existing
>>> links redirected
>>> - It should be available from the TEI Vault but seamlessly
>>> mirrored in its current location
>>> - It should not be moved to the Vault but remain where it is
>>>
>>> Should search engines be dissuaded from indexing TEI P4?
>>> - TEI P4 should not be indexed and links to it not followed
>>> - TEI P4 should not be indexed
>>> - TEI P4 should continue to be indexed
>>> - TEI P4 should continue to be indexed and links to it followed
>>>
>>> Have you used TEI P5 for a project?
>>> - Yes
>>> - No
>>> - I'm about to
>>>
>>> How many TEI P4 projects do you have?
>>> - 0
>>> - 1
>>> - 2-5
>>> - 6-15
>>> - 16-30
>>> - more than 30
>>>
>>> How many TEI P5 projects do you have?
>>> - 0
>>> - 1
>>> - 2-5
>>> - 6-15
>>> - 16-30
>>> - more than 30
>>>
>>> Have you submitted a Bug or Feature Request to the TEI?
>>> - I have submitted both Bugs and Feature Requests directly on
>>> Sourceforge
>>> - I have submitted either a Bug or a Feature Request directly on
>>> Sourceforge
>>> - I have submitted either a Bug or a Feature Request via a TEI
>>> Council member or other individual
>>> - I have contributed to discussions on TEI-L which have informed
>>> Bug or Feature Requests
>>> - I have not contributed a Bug or Feature Request but intend to
>>> - I have not contributed a Bug or Feature Request
>>> - What are Bugs or Feature Requests?
>>> ====
>>>
>>>
>>> Suggestions appreciated.
>>>
>>> -James
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/06/11 10:04, James Cummings wrote:
>>>> Could I suggest that the appropriate time to have a de-emphasis
>>>> of TEI P4 is in November 2011.  I suggest this because that is
>>>> exactly one calendar year before we stop support for P4.  We
>>>> promised 5 years ongoing support for TEI P4 from November 2007.
>>>> In November 2011 we could de-emphasize it by doing the following
>>>> things as Sebastian suggests:
>>>>
>>>> - Freeze any support of it except major bugs (if we've not done
>>>> this already)
>>>> - Demote its visibility in the TEI-C Website
>>>> - Change the robots.txt to encourage search engines to forget
>>>> about it.
>>>> - Remind people that they have a year to stop using it.
>>>>
>>>> In November 2012 I'd suggest that it appears only in the Vault
>>>> and that the TEI Guidelines page not have any mention of it. (As
>>>> it has no mention of other versions like TEI P3, but does have a
>>>> link to the TEI Archive which contains them).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Martin Holmes
>> University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre
>> (mholmes at uvic.ca)
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