[tei-council] genetic draft -- big questions

Martin Holmes mholmes at uvic.ca
Sun Aug 21 15:06:45 EDT 2011

On 11-08-21 11:59 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
> As promised, I have been keeping my nose to the grindstone and working
> on the genetic draft this weekend. You can see the current state of the
> document in ODD format in the svn repository (genetic/p5genetic.xml)
> which is where I am for the moment editing it. For simplicity, I have
> also put a snapshot of it in HTML format on the council's working area
> at http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Council/Working/tcw21.html
> though I don't guarantee to keep that quite so up to date.
> What I need now is some sort of indication from the Council about the
> following BIG QUESTIONS.
> 1. Is this draft headed basically in the right direction? If not, what
> are the essential things that must change in it?

I think it does reflect quite well the discussions we had in Chicago, 
but see my comments on #3 below.

> 2. Should we announce the existence of this draft (AS A DRAFT) to TEI-L
> now, or do some more fiddling with it first?

You just did, since our archives are public, but in the sense of making 
an announcement on TEI-L, I think we should wait until we're all happy 
with it.

> 3. The draft still uses the name "<facsimile>" for the element which
> contains an document-level tramnscription along with or independent of a
> collection of images. The workgroup specifically said that they didn't
> like this name, and it is also confusing for those who are accustomed to
> the current P5 meaning for<facsimile>  . What name shall we use instead?
> ("elephant" was what we said in Chicago, but I don't think that was a
> serious suggestion).

I'm still really uncomfortable with mixing the original intent of 
<facsimile> with this new elephant; it seems to me to violate the 
separation of concerns. IMHO, <facsimile> should be restricted to 
defining surfaces and zones, and this genetic markup should be placed in 
a sibling element; and I still think that <diploma> is the best 
suggestion we had for a tag name.

Thanks for all your work on this, Lou.


> There are tons of things wrong with this draft as it currently stands,
> and they won't get better without your help! I need better (clearer)
> examples, I need confirmation that the prose makes sense, I need to be
> quizzed about how the content models are supposed to work.
> I'll post a second message listing some of the other specific questions
> that struck me as I was producing this draft in a while...
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