[tei-council] facsimile draft

[Daniel O'Donnell]

My only comments have been addressed or anticipated: I don't like having
@facs work with both IDREFs and URLs and indeed, surface is clearly a
specialised form of choice while facsimile is a list but not choice.

As to the first point, I wonder if the "simple" version is really all
that simple--or if it isn't doing something other than building
facsimiles. Having constructed facsimile for sound theoretical reasons
as a parallel to text, I'm not sure what the advantage is in allowing
users to abandon it for a free floating URL. I see three standard ways
in which users will come to this:

1) I have a full set of basic page-by-page images which I want to link
to my transcriptions

2) I have a full set of facsimiles with details and infra-red etc.
extras that I want to link to my transcriptions

3) I have an incomplete set of images or am only interest in
occasionally connecting my images to my transcriptions.

In cases 1 and 2, I don't see that requiring facsimile/graphic and
restricting @facs to IDREFs is a significant burden and grouping them
together in facsimile is both theoretically appropriate and will help
interchange by ensuring that all the referents are in the same place. In
case 3, you don't really have a facsimile at all, you have an
illustration: I'd say graphic is an appropriate medium for reflecting
this.

As for surface being choice: I'd say this is yet another argument that
there is an abstract logical choice content model that is not phrase
restricted. But I've given up on that for P5 and am instead
concentrating on making the phrasal model internally consistent.

On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 22:07 +0100, Lou Burnard wrote:
> As mentioned in the call, I've been working on trying to produce a 
> section about facsimile markup which could be plugged into the current 
> chapter on physical transcription, using as many as possible of the 
> ideas discussed here by Conal and others over the last few weeks.
> 
> Time is running out, and we need to get closure on this, so I hope Conal 
> and Dot will excuse me for steaming ahead on this without consulting 
> with them privately first. I've used the documents circulated and 
> followed (as far as I can) the discussion so far to produce a 
> straw-person kind of a draft which is now posted for your (particularly 
> their) urgent attention at http://www.tei-c.org/Drafts/facs.odd
> 
> I've deliberately restricted the scope of what this draft makes possible 
> to what I hope we can all agree on as a bare minimum of functionality. 
> It supports linking from text to image and image to text with a minimum 
> of fuss ; it also supports linking between text and image fragments, but 
> only provides one way to do it. It tries to fit in with existing TEI 
> idiom and practice.
> 
> It is however in desperate need of help on the following counts:
> 
> -- I haven't the faintest idea how to transcribe the  Old English ms 
> we're using as an example. (The one Conal circulated earlier). Either 
> someone needs to transcribe it for me, or I need to find another example 
> which I can transcribe. (Actually, as this one claims to be copyright of 
> the Bodleian, the second is probably the wiser course)
> 
> -- in defining how the co-ordinate system works, I have had to rely on 
> my vague recollections of O level maths. Someone who actually knows 
> about this stuff should read it carefully to see how plausible this is. 
> Also how feasible it is to implement it!
> 
> -- I've also made a wild guess about how to specify the datatype of my 
> @box attribute (formerly known as @coords -- I renamed it because it is 
> considerably more restricted than the synonymous XHTML attribute)
> 
> All comments, bouquets, and brickbats gratefully received
> 
> Lou
> 
> 
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Daniel Paul O'Donnell, PhD
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Chair, Text Encoding Initiative http://www.tei-c.org/

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