Now that was a great post. I would disagree only with your label:
"World War II Consciousness." That was also the consciousness of
World War I and, for this country, the Spanish-American War
including the conquest of the Philippines and the conversion of
Cuba from a Spanish colony to an American semi-colony. It is the
consciousness of the imperialist stage of capitalism, as your
mother, whom I deeply admired, would have agreed.
About twenty years ago, your mother and I were part of a panel
at the Berkeley-Oakland Jewish Community Center on Jewish
activism, in which each speaker covered a decade. I think she did
the Thirties. The Center would have an archived tape. I think
you'd enjoy it.
Bill Mandel
Joe McDonald wrote:
>
> William Mandel wrote:
>
> > Simply a matter of fact. The World War II generation is not in
> > power. Neither Clinton nor Gore. Clinton is younger than you,
> > Joe. There may still be a couple of WW II-age people on the
> > Supreme Court, but a minority. Also a few Congressional Committee
> > heads, very few. Likewise, industry and the banks and
> > transportation and the army are all run by post-WW II people.
> > Even Colin Powell, now retired, started in Korea, a whole
> > different thing than WWII.
> > Bill Mandel
> >
>
> You know Bill you hit it right on the head! There are 2 groups in the 60's
> generation: one that did nothing really and one that did it all. The ones that did
> it all: dropped acid, lived in communes, went to rock dances, smoke pot, took
> drugs, wore old clothes, went through boot camp, went of advanced infantry
> training, went to nam, got stoned on opium and heroin. killed and maimed and hacked
> and hewed. That second group learned that IT DON'T MEAN SHIT!
>
> Now to a well learned person like yourself it must seem like a pretty
> unsophisticated philosophical statement. But don't you know what group Bill
> Clinton, Collin Powell, Madaline Albright, Bill Gates, Tom Hanks, et al fall into?!
> No you don't and that is the big problem. My mother Florence McDonald, the famous
> progressive politician from Berkeley and Washington DC told me once "it's a shame
> that the old leaders just wont step down they just want to be in control for ever".
>
> Hells Bells if we were in charge pot would be legal; gender would not be an issue;
> people would work flex time and communally; the military would be moving towards
> being a democratic entity like every other entity in America; being homosexual
> would no longer be a crime; guns would be highly regulated; military personnel
> would get paid a living wage....and that is just for starters. No Bill Mandel not
> me nor any of my close friends are in real positions of power in America today. It
> is not age but consciousness that matters in the 60's and post 60's generations.
> Some of us have had our minds expanded to the IT DON'T MEAN SHIT point and some of
> us still want to believe that it all must mean something...well it don't.
>
> The World War 2 Consciousness is alive and well in all the power houses of America
> today and that WWII mentality makes about as much sense in the present as thinking
> the world is flat.
>
> cheers, country joe mcdonald
>
> -- "Ira Furor Brevis Est " - Anger is a brief madness
>
> country joe Home Pg <http://www.countryjoe.com>
> country joe's tribute to Florence Nightingale
> <http://www.countryjoe.com/nightingale>
> Berkeley Vietnam Veterans Memorial <http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/Links/Comm/vvm>
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