9.0003 Rs: Latin; ClipArt; AOL; E-Dickens; Sesame (8/122)

Elaine Brennan (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Sun, 7 May 1995 14:15:26 EDT

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 9, No. 0003. Sunday, 7 May 1995.


(1) Date: Wed, 3 May 95 18:37:10 CST (14 lines)
From: "Jim Marchand" <marchand@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Latin quotation

(2) Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 03:21:06 -0400 (8 lines)
From: AthAlFLB@aol.com
Subject: Re: 8.0485 Qs: ClipArt

(3) Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 20:49:06 +0100 (BST) (18 lines)
From: Jann Tracy <lbn04jt@gold.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 8.0485 Qs: Sesame; ClipArt; Public Domain; E-Dickens; AOL

(4) Date: Fri, 5 May 95 15:46 MET (26 lines)
From: h230490@stud.u-szeged.hu
Subject: Re: texts by Charles Dickens online?

(5) Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 01:45:58 -0400 (8 lines)
From: AthAlFLB@aol.com
Subject: Re: 8.0485 Qs: AOL

(6) Date: Wed, 3 May 95 18:39:27 CST (8 lines)
From: "Jim Marchand" <marchand@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: AOL

(7) Date: Wed, 3 May 95 18:55:16 CST (12 lines)
From: "Jim Marchand" <marchand@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Sesame

(8) Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:43:40 +0001 (28 lines)
From: Donald Spaeth <dspaeth@dish.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 8.0485 Qs: Sesame

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Date: Wed, 3 May 95 18:37:10 CST
From: "Jim Marchand" <marchand@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Latin quotation

#2: Pour les latinistes: j'ai besoin d'une traduction de la phrase
d'Horace "materium superabat opus"

I don't think this is by Horace, and the Latin goes "materiAm superabat
opus", which is usually taken to mean: "The workmanship was better than the
material(s)" or something like that. Formerly, I was a good latinist; now I
must confess I can't place the author, though this is a familiar quotation.
This is definitely not by Horace; I just looked into Lane Cooper and did
not find it there.
Jim Marchand.
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Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 03:21:06 -0400
From: AthAlFLB@aol.com
Subject: Re: 8.0485 Qs: ClipArt

Find someone who has CorelDRAW! 5; it has thousands of different clipart
selections, including many historical figures, landmarks, maps, etc.

Cheers, Brent Yaciw, FSU
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Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 20:49:06 +0100 (BST)
From: Jann Tracy <lbn04jt@gold.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 8.0485 Qs: Sesame; ClipArt; Public Domain; E-Dickens; AOL


Try the following:

Anonymous ftps - address: nic.funet.fi -- which has several Dickens texts
ftp.uu.net -- author information and list of
texts available at the site
ftp.spies.com or gopher: wiretap.spies.com --
for pointers on where to obtain etexts
Project Gutenberg, which has several ftp's

Hope it's of some help;

Jann

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Date: Fri, 5 May 95 15:46 MET
From: h230490@stud.u-szeged.hu
Subject: Re: texts by Charles Dickens online?

On Fri Michael Wolf Irmscher wrote

Michael:
You can find things like this, thanks to the Gutenberg
Project.
You can ftp them (maybe the list first: INDEX*.GUT) from:
mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
they are in the /pub/etext dir
They have Dickens, but I am not sure they have
specifically the ones You seek though.

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Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 01:45:58 -0400
From: AthAlFLB@aol.com
Subject: Re: 8.0485 Qs: AOL

Write to: SteveCase@aol.com. He rarely answers himself, but the techs respond
shortly (in my experience).

Cheers, Brent Yaciw, FSU
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Date: Wed, 3 May 95 18:39:27 CST
From: "Jim Marchand" <marchand@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: AOL

The person you need to contact, Jim, is one of those O'Donnells. David
O'Donnell is the honcho of AOL: postmaster@aol.com. Customer relations no.:
800-827-3338, 9-2 MTWTF, according to the AOL.FAQ.
Jim Marchand.
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Date: Wed, 3 May 95 18:55:16 CST
From: "Jim Marchand" <marchand@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Sesame

This is one scholars have argued about for years. Plants which opened doors
and locks were well-known in folklore, e.g. springwort. It may be that
sesame is just a magic word, it may be connected with sesame, which does
have magical properties, or it may it is just a reference to springwort. If
you want to go further, Funk and Wagnalls' Standard Dictionary of Folklore,
Mythology and Legend (s.v. "open sesame") is a good place to start; or
Grimm's Germanische Mythologie.
Jim Marchand.
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Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:43:40 +0001
From: Donald Spaeth <dspaeth@dish.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: 8.0485 Qs: Sesame

Mark Calkins asked:

> Does the "sesame" in "open sesame" refer simply to the sesame seed? And
> ... is there any symbolism or mythology associated with the
> sesame seed?

Philistine that I am, I've always assumed that "open
sesame" should be read as "open says (a) me". This would
imply that the phrase was different in other languages.
But I hope there's a more interesting explanation!

Donald Spaeth

Dr Donald A Spaeth
Lecturer in Historical Computing
School of History and Archaeology
University of Glasgow
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Glasgow G12 8QQ
United Kingdom

Tel: 0141 330-4942 Fax: 0141 330-5518
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