[tei-council] constraints on <publicationStmt>

[Paul Schaffner]

Historically speaking, I imagine that need (or at least the perceived
need) to choose a sequence arose when XML-ifying the SGML
"&" operator in the P3 DTD. I.e., at the P4 stage

(p+ | ( (publisher | distributor | authority) & (pubPlace?, address?,
idno*, availability?, date?)+ )+ )

pfs

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014, at 14:13, Fabio Ciotti wrote:
> I don't see any reason for enforcing the sequence agency - detail
> (leaving aside the fact that I would take away  <availability> from
> here...).
> It sounds like a sort of "presentational" way of modelling descriptive
> metadata elements. For instance, in MODS <originInfo> children are a
> repeatable choice.
> And it's odd the the fact that agency is mandatory, since we can have
> a lot of bibliographic item for which there is no publisher (or it's
> unkonwn). Probably <date> should be seen as a more fundamental
> element.
> 
> Fabio
> 
> 2014-09-30 0:03 GMT+02:00 Sebastian Rahtz <sebastian.rahtz at it.ox.ac.uk>:
> >
> > On 29 Sep 2014, at 22:57, Paul Schaffner <PFSchaffner at umich.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> I think there is actually a rule for this (broken in this case), namely
> >>
> >> 4B6.5 "If a place of publication ... associated with an earlier
> >> edition appears together with the actual place of publication ..
> >> of the edition being described, transcribe the places as a single
> >> element in the order in which they appear. [example:]
> >> "Philadelphia printed, London reprinted."
> >>
> >> i.e.
> >>
> >> <pubPlace>Printed at London ; and reprinted at Glasgow : </pubPlace>
> >> <publisher>by Robert Sanders...</publisher>
> >
> >
> > hmm. this is problematic. When converted to valid TEI P5, it would come out as
> >
> >> <publisher>by Robert Sanders...</publisher>
> >> <pubPlace>Printed at London ; and reprinted at Glasgow : </pubPlace>
> >>
> > which is a bit nonsensical.
> >
> > This mixture of transcription and controlled order of elements
> > isn’t going to work. Bleeargh.
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