[tei-council] correspdesc musings

Peter Stadler stadler at edirom.de
Thu Aug 21 11:40:47 EDT 2014


Yes. Because it’s nasty to look at two places I was trying to move it to one place. And I was hoping to get a wider audience on the SIG list … 
Sorry if I missed some Council decision here?!

Am 21.08.2014 um 17:37 schrieb Lou Burnard <lou.burnard at retired.ox.ac.uk>:

> I thought we'd agreed that the Council would continue to discuss this 
> proposal on the Council list?
> 
> I don't mind moving it to the SIG list if that's your preference but 
> it's tiresome having to look for it in two places.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/08/14 16:19, Peter Stadler wrote:
>> I’m trying to merge the discussion about the correspDesc proposal on the correspondence SIG list to get more people involved. Please have a look at
>> https://listserv.brown.edu/?A0=TEI-CORRESP-SIG for current messages.
>> 
>> Best
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> Am 03.08.2014 um 20:26 schrieb Syd Bauman <syd at paramedic.wwp.northeastern.edu>:
>> 
>>> My post to the TEI-CORRESP-SIG mailing list is available at
>>>  https://listserv.brown.edu/?A2=ind1407&L=TEI-CORRESP-SIG&F=&S=&P=2402
>>> Further thoughts interlineated below.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> 3. I am not sure that I understand fully the implications of
>>>>> distinguishing "sender" and "author". If my wife writes a
>>>>> postcard and we both sign it, I guess that my wife is the author
>>>>> and we are both senders: is that right?
>>>> That was one of the things I was worrying about but didn't quite
>>>> get straight. But I'm assuming that is the case. There are multiple
>>>> authors/senders/delivery-people/receivers/etc.
>>> Also if I write a letter and hand it to my son for delivery, I am the
>>> author and he is the sender, no? Hence why it is sent from the post
>>> office near his school, rather than the one near my home or office.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> 4. I don't see the need for a <correspClass> distinct from the
>>>>> existing (and already quite elaborate) text classification
>>>>> mechanisms in the TEI header. It seems to overlap entirely with
>>>>> the existing mechanism @class attribute on <msContents>
>>>> It seemed to be <keywords> to me.
>>> I'm not sure about <keywords> vs msContents/@class vs <textClass>,
>>> but I'm loathe to see yet another classification system in the TEI.
>>> Unless the correspSIGgers have a very compelling use-case for it, I'd
>>> prefer to fold that information into an existing mechanism.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> 6. The place a letter is actually sent from (as witnessed by the
>>>>> postmark, or other evidence) may be different from the place the
>>>>> sender/s say it is sent from. (We've all written postcards to send
>>>>> home, and forgotten to post them!). How would you handle that.
>>>> To me, different placeName elements with different @roles. (which
>>>> is my I prefer placeName to a specifically named element.
>>> So perhaps
>>>  <ct:sender evidence="internal">
>>>    <placeName>[where I said I sent it from in the letter]</>
>>>  </>
>>>  <ct:sender evidence="external">
>>>    <placeName>[where postmark says it was sent from]</>
>>>  </>
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> 7. I dont think @type and @subtype are strong enough to handle
>>>>> the full complexity of information one might want to record under
>>>>> <ct:transmission> -- this whole area of the proposal needs more
>>>>> elaboration I think. It might also be useful in this context to
>>>>> look at the work of the CMC sig, as I think I mentioned before.
>>>> agreed.
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> 9. Where do I record metadata about other aspects of the
>>>>> transmission of the letter e.g. the type or design of the postage
>>>>> stamps? the presence or absence of publicity stamps in addition
>>>>> to the postmark proper?
>>>> Good point as well.
>>>> 
>>>>> Oooh, I see James has got his reactions in already, so I will pause
>>>>> here and see if we agree on anything...
>>>> A couple things at least...
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