[tei-council] list types and rends: bug 460

[Sebastian Rahtz]

On 22 Dec 2013, at 15:19, Martin Holmes <mholmes at uvic.ca> wrote:

> On the point that the rest of the world uses the "ordered" vs "unordered" distinction, outside of HTML (which I think got this wrong, although the decision was made before CSS existed), what other standards use those terms? XSL:FO doesn't (it relies on fo:list-item-label, which can be a bullet or a number). ODF (on which I'm no expert, so correct me if I'm wrong) uses text:list-level-style-number> alongside text:list-level-style-bullet>

true. Docbook is the one I was thinking of apart from HTML. I see it uses “itemised” and “ordered”. they also use
“simple” for "An undecorated list of single words or short phrases”

> On balance, I still prefer "numbered", but another possibility would be "enumerated" -- is that actually different, and if it is, would it be better?
> 
no, leave as “numbered”; “enumerated” will just cause argument.

Docbook has a nice description: "orderedlist — A list in which each entry is marked with a sequentially incremented label”

> I'm going to turn this into a formal proposal on the wiki; it's obviously not going into the next release, because the stylesheets obviously have to be ready at the same time as the Glines changes.
> 
thats OK, if we agreed on it far enough in advance. it would only be a few hours work.

if you’re working on it in bored moments between the sprouts and the pudding, having a test/example file would be be no bad thing,
showing all the possibilities.

> On the question of handling old values in the Stylesheets, I think we have to, at least for a while; people will scream instantly if @type values we've been recommending for many years suddenly don't work properly with a new release of the Stylesheets. This brings up the possibility of deprecation in the Stylesheets, of course.

yes. i don’t know where to start, though, in implementing this….
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