[tei-council] Comments on the first draft of a new Guidelines sections

[Martin Holmes]

Hi Marcus,

Many thanks for the feedback. I like your additions to the first 
paragraph. You're absolutely right about the Easter Wings rotation -- 
it's now fixed. It was me that was geometrically challenged. :-)

I'm very happy to get an expert correction of the encoding of the haiku. 
I was reluctant to impose the lg/l paradigm on the original calligraphy 
because it seemed rather a western thing, but I've happily changed it so 
all three encodings use lg/l. That will be much less potentially 
confusing for the reader, too.

Cheers,
Martin

On 13-11-29 08:35 AM, Marcus Bingenheimer wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> Thanks so much for the write-up it really read well and I am comfortable
> with the level of detail. The reader should get a decent intro to the
> topic as well as some neat examples. I think the draft does that very well.
> I have made some additions to the introductory paragraph. I feel they
> are quite harmless, but please toss if you don't like them.
>
> 1. In the case of the Japanese Haiku, I don't thing the <ab> is
> necessary. Arguably the <lb> as just as much part of the layout as the
> spacing and calligraphy. I would  encode the jp with <l>s as well (l:
> (verse line) contains a single, **possibly incomplete**, line of verse)
>
> <lg xml:lang="ja" style="writing-mode: vertical-rl"
>        xml:id="furu-ike-ya_jp" corresp="#furu-ike-ya_romaji
> #furu-ike-ya_en">
>      <l>古池や</l>
>      <l>蛙</l>
>      <l>飛び込む</l>
>      <l>水の音</l>
>    </l>
>
> I think that would be clearer and,  if the <l> are numbered, original
> and transcription/translation would be easier to align.
>
>
> 2. On danger as outing myself as geometrically challenged: aren't the
> Easter Wings (both as lines and as whole paragraph) rotated around the z
> axis rather than the x axis? (Attached is how I would a expect an 180
> x-axis rotation to look)
>
> all the best
>
> marcus
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Martin Holmes <mholmes at uvic.ca
> <mailto:mholmes at uvic.ca>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     This is going out to the Text Directionality working group members
>     and to the TEI Council. At the recent Council meeting in Oxford, I
>     introduced the first draft of a proposed new section for the Guidelines:
>
>     <http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.__php/Text_Directionality_Draft
>     <http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Text_Directionality_Draft>>
>
>     The decision of Council was that rather than appearing in the front
>     matter of the Guidelines, the new section should become part of an
>     expanded Chapter 5 ("Languages and Character Sets"):
>
>     <http://www.tei-c.org/release/__doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/WD.html
>     <http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/WD.html>__>
>
>     This chapter would probably be renamed, and section 10.6.6 from
>     Chapter 10:
>
>     <http://www.tei-c.org/release/__doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/MS.__html#mslangs
>     <http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/MS.html#mslangs>>
>
>     "Languages and Writing Systems", would also be moved into Chapter 5.
>
>     I'd like to ask everyone to please re-read the draft of the Text
>     Directionality section within the next two weeks if you haven't done
>     so already, and make comments either on the questions page:
>
>     <http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.__php/Text_Directionality_Draft___Questions
>     <http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Text_Directionality_Draft_Questions>>
>
>     or on the Talk page:
>
>     <http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.__php/Talk:Text_Directionality___Draft
>     <http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Talk:Text_Directionality_Draft>>
>
>     or send them directly to me if you don't want to post on the Wiki.
>
>     I would particularly ask people who have little or no interest or
>     knowledge relating to text directionality to read through the text.
>     You should be able to grasp the issues without any background
>     knowledge, and I'd like to know where we might be assuming too much
>     of the reader or failing to explain something properly.
>
>     The Council minutes on this topic are here:
>
>     <http://www.tei-c.org/__Activities/Council/Meetings/__tcm56.xml#body.1_div.3_div.6
>     <http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Council/Meetings/tcm56.xml#body.1_div.3_div.6>>
>
>     All the best,
>     Martin
>
>     --
>     Martin Holmes
>     University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre
>     (mholmes at uvic.ca <mailto:mholmes at uvic.ca>)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Marcus Bingenheimer 馬德偉
> Department of Religion, Temple University
> http://mbingenheimer.net

-- 
Martin Holmes
University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre
(mholmes at uvic.ca)