[tei-council] Suggestion for a new Guidelines TOC document

[James Cummings]

On 15/05/13 17:15, Martin Holmes wrote:
> I went for three columns because it gets more stuff onto the screen at a
> time, on a normal wider-than-tall desktop screen; with your mockup I was
> scrolling to find the bit I use most often, which is the back matter in
> my case. In mine, I left the back matter over on the right because
> that's where everyone is used to seeing it, but of course that's not a
> good reason when we're redesigning.
>
> I think it would be good to get some polling numbers on a couple of key
> questions:
>
> 1. Do we want two columns however wide your screen is, or do we want
> three columns collapsing to two if there's not enough room for them?

I like the responsive design of 1, 2, or 3 columns depending on 
screen width.

> 2. Do we want to keep Some Popular Sections?

I would say yes, as long as it is distinguished as meta some how 
(e.g. background colour)

> 3. Do we want to include the alternative output formats (PDF, ePub,
> Mobi) as list elements like the rest of the TOC (as in my mockup), or as
> links in a horizontal list across the top (as in Kevin's)?

I think it should be a set of small icons/links/text near the 
top. We do not claim that these versions are normative. (And want 
people to stop citing page numbers in their bugs!) ;-)

-James


>
> Could everyone respond to these three questions one way or the other,
> please?
>
> Thanks,
> Martin
>
> On 13-05-15 08:24 AM, Kevin Hawkins wrote:
>> If we keep back matter below body text, as in my version and as
>> supported by James and me, then we have one column for
>>
>> front matter
>> body text
>> back matter
>>
>> and then potentially one column for
>>
>> some popular sections
>>
>> and a final column for
>>
>> TEI sourcecode
>>
>> Considering how short these other two columns would end up being, I
>> think we only really need two columns.  Once you get into three columns,
>> in my opinion the interface becomes difficult to scan the first time you
>> see the page.  This is in fact why I started redesigning Martin's
>> mockup: there was just too much to process all at once.
>>
>> --K.
>>
>> On 5/15/2013 8:42 AM, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>> I've never really liked "Some popular sections" at all, but there was
>>> strong support for including it, IIRC. One question that the two mockups
>>> bring up is this: should we go for a three-column layout, which
>>> collapses to two columns if there's not enough width, as mine does, or
>>> should we go for a two-column layout from the beginning, as in Kevin's,
>>> which will probably mean more scrolling for people on wide screens, but
>>> will almost always look the same?
>>>
>>> I very frequently go to the back matter -- I have most of those back
>>> matter links in my bookmarks, too -- so my instinct was to keep the Back
>>> Matter section visible in the default layout, rather than scrolling off
>>> the bottom. But I may be unusual in that.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On 13-05-14 11:13 PM, James Cummings wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Both are good.  I prefer Martin's for having the 'Some popular
>>>> sections' as well, but prefer Kevin's having 'Back Matter'
>>>> underneath the rest of the ToC.  (It seems weird to have it
>>>> separated.)  Using background colour to distinguish those things
>>>> that are part of the main ToC vs additional things seems a good idea.
>>>>
>>>> -James
>>>>
>>>> On 15/05/13 03:51, Kevin Hawkins wrote:
>>>>> Thanks, Martin, for the good work on this.  I've just uploaded a mockup
>>>>> of my own:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/421/#297e
>>>>>
>>>>> --K
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/14/13 7:59 PM, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>>>>> HI all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been working on this FR:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://sourceforge.net/p/tei/feature-requests/421/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which is about creating a new unified front page for the Guidelines, to
>>>>>> replace the multiple pages we now have. Here's my first shot at it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://web.uvic.ca/lancenrd/tei/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tried to take into account all the suggestions we've had. A lot of
>>>>>> the links don't go to the right places, since it's out of context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>


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