[tei-council] where to put bibliographic citations in the Guidelines

[Martin Holmes]

On 13-04-05 11:07 AM, Syd Bauman wrote:
> I'm not sure whether or not Martin's (nice) idea meets accessibility
> criteria, either.

I think it does: the footnotes still appear at the bottom of the page, 
as they do now. When you click on the note number, a copy is made of the 
note from the bottom, and the copy is shown to you in the margin. We 
should set it up so that, if you have JavaScript turned off, or it's 
unavailable, the original linking system works as before, but if you 
have JavaScript, you get the popups instead (and in either case, the 
notes still appear at the bottom). But it does mean adding some 
JavaScript to the Guidelines. There is some already, of course, so this 
isn't breaking new ground.

> But I think it leads us to a greater point than
> footnotes. We should probably start thinking about how to get a web
> accessibility appraisal of the Guidelines in HTML (at least). Do we
> have any in-house expertise in this area?

Not me. My experience with those automated testers has not been 
encouraging. The one from years ago (what was it called?) used to 
complain that the answers and feedback for multiple choice questions 
were hidden from view -- which of course they should be, till you make a 
choice.

Cheers,
Martin

> Just popping the TOC page through WAVE yields 4 errors and 577
> alerts.
>
>
>>> Regarding the display of footnotes in the HTML version of the
>>> Guidelines, Martin says:
>>>
>>> On 1/27/13 11:38 PM, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>>
>>> [. . .]
>>>
>>>> I've also been meaning to make those footnotes actually pop up
>>>> next to the footnote number so you don't bounce down to the bottom
>>>> of the page and bounce back. Does everyone think that would be a
>>>> good idea? It would be like the footnotes on a page like this:
>>>>
>>>> <http://bcgenesis.uvic.ca/getDoc.htm?id=V465HB01.scx>
>>>>
>>>> (Scroll down till you see the grey button with "1" on it, and
>>>> click it.)
>>>
>>> Do these meet accessibility guidelines?  I would prefer that any
>>> solution we implement be fully accessible.
>>
>> On that page, the footnotes are all listed at the bottom of the
>> document. IIRC, what I do is to make a copy of the footnote node,
>> strip its @id attribute (so that it doesn't end up with the same id
>> as the original), and then show it in the popup. The original
>> footnote is still there to view if you want to scroll down to it. I
>> don't think there are any accessibility issues with this -- a screen
>> reader, for instance, can read the whole page with footnotes
>> included, and can also read the popup when it appears presumably --
>> but I'm not an expert in accessibility.

-- 
Martin Holmes
University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre
(mholmes at uvic.ca)