[tei-council] biblscope and imprint

[Gabriel Bodard]

Is that what we proposed?

I thought I remembered we had suggested to put the biblScope in the 
element whose scope is being defined by it, so <biblScope type="pp"> 
goes in <analytic> because the article is only pages 377-380 of the 
volume in question, and <biblScope type="issue"> goes in <monogr> 
because this volume is only issue 25.6 of the journal....

But looking at this stuff I find myself more and more agreeing with 
Martin that biblStruct was never a good idea. ;-)

G

On 2012-11-02 14:29, Kevin Hawkins wrote:
> The ticket proposes putting <biblScope>s after the <imprint> element
> when its present.  So your example would now be encoded as:
>
> <biblStruct>
>     <analytic>
>       <author>Chesnutt, David</author>
>       <title>Historical Editions in the States</title>
>     </analytic>
>     <monogr>
>       <title level="j">Computers and the Humanities</title>
>       <imprint>
>         <date when="1991-12">(December, 1991):</date>
>       </imprint>
>       <biblScope>25.6</biblScope>
>       <biblScope>377–380</biblScope>
>     </monogr>
> </biblStruct>
>
> --Kevin
>
> On 11/2/2012 7:02 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
>> Tootling across france on the train yesterday I started trying to deal
>> with http://purl.org/tei/FR/3555190...
>>
>> The part about the scope of biblscope was fairly easy to add, as was
>> guidance on usage of biblScope. But I hit a problem with the second
>> part, where it says that biblScope doesn't belong inside<imprint>  --
>> the logic behind that desire is impeccable, but it messes up an awful
>> lot of out current practice.
>>
>> Consider the following:
>>
>> <biblStruct>
>> <analytic>
>> <author>Chesnutt, David</author>
>> <title>Historical Editions in the States</title>
>> </analytic>
>> <monogr>
>> <title level="j">Computers and the Humanities</title>
>> <imprint>
>> <biblScope>25.6</biblScope>
>> <date when="1991-12">(December, 1991):</date>
>> <biblScope>377–380</biblScope>
>> </imprint>
>> </monogr>
>> </biblStruct>
>>
>> which is a fairly common pattern in P5 (and appears as the canonical
>> example for<imprint>)
>>
>> If, following FR 3555190, we think<biblStruct>  has no place within
>> <imprint>, how should
>> this, and many similar cases, be tagged?
>>
>> One possibility might be
>>
>> <monogr>
>> <title level="j">Computers and the Humanities</title>
>> <biblScope>25.6</biblScope>
>> <biblScope>377–380</biblScope>
>> <imprint>
>> <date when="1991-12">(December, 1991):</date>
>> </imprint>
>> </monogr>
>>
>> Another might be
>>
>> <monogr>
>> <title level="j">Computers and the Humanities</title>
>> <biblScope>25.6</biblScope>
>> <biblScope>377–380</biblScope>
>> <biblScope type="date">(December, 1991)</biblScope>
>> </imprint>
>> </monogr>
>>
>> or perhaps better
>>
>> <biblScope><date when="1991-12">(December, 1991)</date></biblScope>
>>
>>
>> Another might be to tweak the content model so that
>> model.dateLike is permitted outside<imprint>  and alongside<biblScope>
>>
>> And another might be to reconsider the decision to remove<biblScope>
>> from within<imprint>
>>
>> Any ideas? Everyone braced for the rush of complaints?
>>

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