[tei-council] @style /rend/rendition coexistence

[Martin Holmes]

> the idea that @rend is an ALTERNATIVE to the
> others makes good sense.

What about my point that there may be things that are not expressible in 
your chosen style language, so you need to use @rend to add them?

Cheers,
Martin

On 12-10-05 12:58 PM, Lou Burnard wrote:
> On 05/10/12 20:45, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>>
>> On 5 Oct 2012, at 20:37, Lou Burnard <lou.burnard at retired.ox.ac.uk>
>>    wrote:
>>
>>>> If I meet <hi style="font-weight:bold;" rend="italic">hello</hi>
>>>> I guess I am just going to swallow nervously and generate
>>>>     <span style="font-weight:bold; font-style:italic">hello</span>
>>>> and
>>>>    {\bfseries\itshape hello}
>>>> etc
>>>
>>> I think that's the start of a very very slippery slope
>>
>> not sure why?
>
> because you are mixing languages. it's ok to unify @rendition and @style
> values because they come from the same domain, but I dont think you can
> ever do that with @rend. Maybe my @rend="italic" means "uses a fair
> Italian hand"
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> but equally I dont mind being told that @rend wipes out @style/@rendition
>>>> --
>>>
>>> "wipes out" in what sense? the attributes are all still there; it's up to your app what it does with them.
>>
>>
>> ok, put it another way, @style and @rend are alternates. the encoder has kindly provided two different
>> ways of describing what the source looks like, you can read whichever you like (but not process both if you
>> are a stylesheet).
>
> yes, i think I would agree with that. A stylesheet can of course do
> whatever it likes, but the idea that @rend is an ALTERNATIVE to the
> others makes good sense.
>
>>
>>
>> did we ever decide what <hi rend="nice" rendition="#lions">hello</hi> means?
>>
>
> Well, if we agree on the above, it means that some aspects of the
> rendition of the source are "nice" and some others (possibly the same,
> but not necessarily) are described by whatever #lions is pointing to,
> possibly unified with whatever the default properties for <hi> are.
>
>
>> oh what a tangled web we've woved for ourselves with this business.
>
> I blame that J Walsh.
>
>

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Martin Holmes
University of Victoria Humanities Computing and Media Centre
(mholmes at uvic.ca)