[tei-council] active/passive again

Gabriel BODARD gabriel.bodard at kcl.ac.uk
Mon Aug 6 14:48:00 EDT 2012


On 06/08/2012 16:02, Martin Holmes wrote:
>> @active	identifies the ‘active’ participants in a non-mutual
>> relationship, or all the participants in a mutual one.
>
> This rather suggests to me that where @mutual is used, @active and
> @passive should not be, and vice versa. Are the examples of relations in
> which there are active and passive participants, but also groups of
> mutual ones?

Right, it is saying that @active/@passive and @mutual should not be used 
simultaneously, but that @active may be used on its own, and its meaning 
would be (as far as I can tell) identical to @mutual.

> I can't, but I feel as though there must be a better terminology than
> subject/object, which comes loaded with linguistic baggage.

That's true, but they have the advantage over active/passive in that the 
linguistic/grammatical baggage they bring with them is more likely to be 
correct. In the phrase A is father of B, A is both grammatically active 
and the subject of the sentence, and B is both grammatically passive and 
the object of the sentence. But in the phrase A was killed by B, the 
active/passive definitions are broken (or at the very least confusing), 
whereas subject/object are still grammatically (and logically) true.

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