[tei-council] updating TCW20

Mon Dec 19 13:03:57 EST 2011

OK. I will send an email to myself, James, Martin, Kevin, Sebastian, and Lou to 
initiate a group discussion.

On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, James Cummings wrote:

> On 19/12/11 17:03, James Cummings wrote:
>>
>> I suggest then an ad hoc group of martin, david, kevin, sebastian and me
>> to discuss (by email/skype/whatever) the security arrangements and other
>> necessary steps for managing a release that shouldn't be discussed here.
>
> Oh, and add Lou to that, I didn't see his message until after I sent 
> mine. ;-)
>
> -James
>
>>
>> -james
>>
>> On 19/12/11 16:10, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>> I'm happy to be involved if folks think I should be -- there was a
>>> concern that more people should be able to manage releases etc. Kevin
>>> also has a login for the CMS, so we should bring him in, and Sebastian
>>> is the one who knows where the scripts etc. are.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On 11-12-19 07:18 AM, David Sewell wrote:
>>>> There is not a lot that needs discussing offline--really just the portions of
>>>> new release implementation that currently require specific access on tei-c.org,
>>>> plus some agreement on where to store information about things that should not
>>>> be fully exposed to the public. Three or four of us on an email discussion or
>>>> Skype call should be sufficient, I think.
>>>>
>>>> James has volunteered, and I will as webmaster of course. Who else?
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, James Cummings wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 19/12/11 04:03, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>>>>> I'm a little uncomfortable with there being a TEI-council-secure list. I
>>>>>> realize there would be utility in it, but I fear there might be a
>>>>>> temptation to use it for purposes other than pure security-related
>>>>>> issues, and after what happened with the Board this year, I think
>>>>>> transparency is very important for us at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Martin here. Also there is the problem that if you have a
>>>>> 'secure' list then you might accidentally post something destined towards
>>>>> that to the non-secure list.  It just opens up more chances for problematic
>>>>> accidents.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think most of the discussion is that insecure to have in
>>>>> public...whether to have such an account or not etc. But yes, if you think it
>>>>> affects security in virginia we should abide by that and move it off-list.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I vote for identifying the subgroup of council that need to know
>>>>>> security-related information, and taking the discussion onto Skype,
>>>>>> which would be more secure than email of any sort, anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm happy to be involved in such a discussion, and would vote for this
>>>>> (agnostic about communication technology since we won't be pass the password
>>>>> that way).
>>>>>
>>>>> -James
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11-12-18 04:58 PM, David Sewell wrote:
>>>>>>> I hate to say it, but I think that this discussion needs to be moved off
>>>>>>> of the tei-council list. We are moving into a territory that has
>>>>>>> security implications for tei-c.org (discussion of user accounts,
>>>>>>> permissions, filesystem paths, etc.), and this shouldn't be available on
>>>>>>> an email list with open-access archives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can either have a subset of Council continue this discussion offline.
>>>>>>> Or, possibly a better solution, I could create a new Virginia-hosted
>>>>>>> list called something like "TEI-council-secure" that would have archives
>>>>>>> available only via password to current list members.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do you people think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, James Cummings wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, entirely different login needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Might it make sense to have a 'teicouncil' account whose login details
>>>>>>>> could  be passed to the 'release technician' (perhaps a better term for
>>>>>>>> the person overseeing a release than 'pumpkin holder'?) for each release?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18/12/11 23:11, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I've tried ssh-ing into tei-c.org with my CMS login, but I can't get in.
>>>>>>>>> Presumably some other account is needed? Of am I trying to log into the
>>>>>>>>> wrong server?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11-12-18 09:43 AM, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Dec 2011, at 17:08, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a specific account you need to log in as to run the install
>>>>>>>>>>> script, or can anyone with login privileges on tei-c.org do it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the account needs write access to /project/tei (vel sim), so not sure.
>>>>>>>>>> try editing stuff in the Vault there to test
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the tei-install.sh script is pretty simple - have a read and see
>>>>>>>>>> what it does.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Stormageddon Rahtz
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Head of Information and Support Group, Oxford University Computing
>>>>>>>>>> Services
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sólo le pido a Dios
>>>>>>>>>> que el futuro no me sea indiferente
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Computing Services, University of Oxford
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