[tei-council] signed/list

Lou Burnard lou.burnard at retired.ox.ac.uk
Fri Nov 18 13:14:28 EST 2011

Looking at the examples of <signed> in the Glines, they seem a bit 
uncertain as to whether the <signed> is meant to include
-- just the name of the person signing
-- the formulaic phrase forming part of it
-- both things together

For example

<signed>Thine to command <name>Humph. Moseley</name>

is inconsistent with

  <salute>Sincerely yours,</salute>


   <salute>Yours more than my own,</salute>
   <signed>Clarissa Harlowe</signed>

Since there are more of the latter than the former, I think the former 
should be corrected to match. Which in turn means that I would much 
rather see the content of <signed> narrowed down to include only 
model.nameLike vel sim., and this example tagged as follows

Sign'd and Seal'd,
<signed>John Bull</signed>,<signed>Nic. Frog.</signed>

You can wrap the <signed>s inside <list><item>s if you want, but I think 
promoting <signed> to be a chunk container rather than a phrase level 
element is playing too fast and loose with the TEI semantic model.

(BTW, I think the reason it's called <signed> rather than <signature> is 
to avoid confusion with <signatures> which is something else again)

On 18/11/11 17:40, Martin Holmes wrote:
> On 11-11-18 08:44 AM, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>> who's up for
>> <closer>
>>                  <signed>Sign'd and Seal'd,
>> 		<list>
>> 		<item>John Bull,</item>
>> 		<item>Nic. Frog.</item>
>>                    </list>
>>                     </signed>
>>                   </closer>
>> ?
> Definitely yes. I have lots of examples of this -- for instance:
> <http://bcgenesis.uvic.ca/imageBrowser.htm?image=co_305_09_00382v.jpg>
> Three sets of initials, each with a date, approving the instruction to
> "Put by".
> Cheers,
> Martin
>> --
>> Stormageddon Rahtz
>> Head of Information and Support Group
>> Oxford University Computing Services
>> 13 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 6NN. Phone +44 1865 283431
>> Sólo le pido a Dios
>> que el futuro no me sea indiferente

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