[tei-council] Licensing - ballot

Laurent Romary laurent.romary at inria.fr
Sat Oct 1 13:12:25 EDT 2011


Just because I had the bad idea to spend the day on water and unpiling only now. You got it right Piotr. That's what I meant, and I don't care so much about lawyers. (see where doing things legally right brought us this summer, lol (with a d)).

Le 1 oct. 2011 à 10:50, Piotr Bański a écrit :

> The formulation still lacks, and of course, applying e.g. a software
> license to documentation, or vice versa, would be a bad move. I
> understand that Laurent wanted to handle the grey area in some special
> way: some say schemas are software, some say they are
> documents/documentation (and the weirdness of the choice is caused by
> the lack of appropriate legal formulations and precedents, it seems).
> So, if I understand Laurent correctly, he wanted to say: if you use e.g.
> schemas "as software" and want to redistribute them in software
> environment, choose BSD. If you use them as documentation and distribute
> them bundled with other pieces of documentation, choose a documentation
> license. And yes, the licensee would have a choice here. Note that I
> don't know if this is OK with all the lawyers in the world, I'm just
> saying that it looks like a sensible attempt to move one step forward in
> this. I think a lawyer or two should see this before it's finalized.
> 
> Let me repeat from a previous e-mail: combining licenses is bad --
> instead offer a choice to the licensee. Once they make it, they will
> have to redistribute under only the license that they have chosen, as
> far as I understand this process. This way it's never that both are
> applicable at once, because indeed, that would be nonsensical.
> 
> So, to wrap up: like Lou said, clear cases should go into clear
> categories, and like Laurent suggested (as I understand him) the grey
> area (still not fully defined, mind you) should give the licensee a
> choice, pending some legal or de facto developments.
> 
> Best,
> 
>  P.
> 
> On 01/10/11 10:29, Lou Burnard wrote:
>> Not sure if I have a vote or not, but I would just like to say that it 
>> is not up to the licensees to decide which licence applies, surely. It 
>> is up to the TEI to say : "text etc" is licenced under CCBY, and 
>> "software etc" is under BSD2 (minus the stupid clause). And we have an 
>> outstanding task to decide which bits go into which category.
>> 
>> Or is the vote to say that both are applicable to everything? That seems 
>> nonsensical.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  kOn 01/10/11 08:46, Laurent Romary wrote:
>>> My count says: LR, PB, SR, SAY, EP, BB
>>> This is just one enough, but would like to have a hint from the others that they would not get completely depressed if we go in this direction. As we know, a majority may not reflect a shared opinion...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Début du message réexpédié :
>>> 
>>>> De : Brett Barney<bbarney2 at unlnotes.unl.edu>
>>>> Date : 30 septembre 2011 21:51:14 HAEC
>>>> À : TEI Council<tei-council at lists.village.Virginia.EDU>
>>>> Cc : tei-council-bounces at lists.village.Virginia.EDU
>>>> Objet : Rép : [tei-council] Fwd: kibitzing
>>>> 
>>>>> On 30/09/2011 09:33, "Stuart A. Yeates"<syeates at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Laurent Romary
>>>> <laurent.romary at inria.fr>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Council. I would definitely like to follow Gabriel on this and ask the
>>>>>>> council to vote on the following statement (I know someone will find
>>>>>>> optimal en words afterwards):
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The council recommends adopting a double license combining BSD-2 and
>>>>>>> CC-BY whereby people who want to re-use text or data-like TEI-content
>>>>>>> should use CC-BY, and those who want to use the
>>>>>>> code and software-like content should use BSD-2.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1 LR
>>>>>> +1 SAY
>>>>> +1
>>>> +1 BB
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Brett
> 
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