[tei-council] genetic draft -- big questions

[Pierazzo, Elena]

Form me 1 or 3, with slight preference for 3. The Genetic people I talked
to were in favour of 1, but could tolerate 3.



On 22/08/2011 12:32, "Lou Burnard" <lou.burnard at retired.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

>OK, so are people imagining something like
>
>1.  (teiHeader, facsimile?,  elephant?,  text? )
>
>or
>
>2.  (teiHeader, (elephant?, text?)
>
>or
>
>3. (as 1, but with the proviso that facsimile is deprecated and will
>disappear eventually)
>
>?
>
>At the moment, of course, the model is
>
>(teiHeader, model.resourceLike*, text? )
>
>and the members of model,resourceLike are fsdDecl and facsimile,
>
>The problem is that both facsimile and elephant need to define surfaces
>and zones, a fiddly and tiresome process which one really does not want
>to do more than necessary.
>
>
>On 22/08/11 12:16, Pierazzo, Elena wrote:
>> Good morning Council.
>>
>>
>>> 1. Is this draft headed basically in the right direction? If not, what
>>> are the essential things that must change in it?
>>
>> I think you did a great job, Lou. Thanks a lot for this.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> 2. Should we announce the existence of this draft (AS A DRAFT) to
>>>>TEI-L
>>>> now, or do some more fiddling with it first?
>>>
>>> You just did, since our archives are public, but in the sense of making
>>> an announcement on TEI-L, I think we should wait until we're all happy
>>> with it.
>>
>> I second Martin: there are a few "elephants" to discuss here before we
>>can
>> formally involve the TEI-L.
>>
>>>
>>>> 3. The draft still uses the name "<facsimile>" for the element which
>>>> contains an document-level tramnscription along with or independent
>>>>of a
>>>> collection of images. The workgroup specifically said that they didn't
>>>> like this name, and it is also confusing for those who are accustomed
>>>>to
>>>> the current P5 meaning for<facsimile>   . What name shall we use
>>>>instead?
>>>> ("elephant" was what we said in Chicago, but I don't think that was a
>>>> serious suggestion).
>>>
>>> I'm still really uncomfortable with mixing the original intent of
>>> <facsimile>  with this new elephant; it seems to me to violate the
>>> separation of concerns. IMHO,<facsimile>  should be restricted to
>>> defining surfaces and zones, and this genetic markup should be placed
>>>in
>>> a sibling element; and I still think that<diploma>  is the best
>>> suggestion we had for a tag name.
>>
>> As you know, I think that using<facsimile>  is not an option.
>>Nevertheless
>> a few things happened and I'm now much less inclined toward the name
>> <diploma>, namely I have spoken to the Medievalists: for them the word
>> 'diploma' has a very distinctive meaning and doesn't meant at all 'a
>> document' but a 'very special type of document' and using it has no more
>> sense that using, say, 'charter' or 'letter'. My new proposal is now
>> <sourceDoc>.
>>
>> Re Laurent proposal of a telco: sorry, can't make Friday as I will be on
>> leave.
>> Elena
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for all your work on this, Lou.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>> There are tons of things wrong with this draft as it currently stands,
>>>> and they won't get better without your help! I need better (clearer)
>>>> examples, I need confirmation that the prose makes sense, I need to be
>>>> quizzed about how the content models are supposed to work.
>>>>
>>>> I'll post a second message listing some of the other specific
>>>>questions
>>>> that struck me as I was producing this draft in a while...
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