[tei-council] <notatedMusic> changes required

Martin Holmes mholmes at uvic.ca
Thu Jul 7 11:15:45 EDT 2011

> And I strongly support Sebastian's objection to the use of a non-typed
> <ptr> here.

I've been thinking about this, and it seems to me that this is an issue 
with <ptr>, not with <notatedMusic>. We don't normally insist that <ptr> 
have @type telling us what's to be done with it. There's no mention of 
this in the <ptr> description:


and only two of the many examples for <ptr> have it. In neither case 
does it relate to transclusion or non-transclusion.

So why is a <ptr> inside <notatedMusic> different from a pointer 
anywhere else?

And I come back again to my original objection: what are the alternative 
values to "transclude"? If there are none that make any sense, then 
"transclude" is either redundant or meaningless. I think it's both. What 
you do with a pointer is entirely the business of the processing agent; 
it's nothing to do with the XML encoding. If you want to include hints 
to the processing agent in your XML, then great, but that's surplus to 
requirements and not really relevant to anyone else's project.


On 11-07-07 01:18 AM, Lou Burnard wrote:
> On 07/07/11 08:40, Laurent Romary wrote:
>> Le 7 juil. 2011 à 01:04, Martin Holmes a écrit :
>>>>     c) something bothersome about both the use of<label>    ("contains the label associated with an item in a list;
>>>>     in glossaries, marks the term being defined") here:
>>>> <figure>
>>>>         <head><label>Ex. 3</label>SCHUBERT: Symphony in B minor.</head>
>>>> 	<notatedMusic>
>>>>            <ptr target="example_schubert.xml"/>
>>>>         </notatedMusic>
>>>>      </figure>
>>> I noticed that too, but I wasn't sure what it might be replaced with.
>>> Perhaps it should be in a<figDesc>, outside the<head>. What do others
>>> think?
>> On this issue, I tend to avoid leaving it there and would put the content into an @n attribute on figure...
> That would have the great virtue of being consistent with the rest of
> the Guidelines!
> And I strongly support Sebastian's objection to the use of a non-typed
> <ptr>  here.
> So I would change this to
>    <figure n="3"><head>SCHUBERT: Symphony in B minor.</head>
> <notatedMusic>
> <ptr type="transclude" target="example_schubert.xml"/>
> </notatedMusic>
> </figure>
> However -- does this example really mean that the whole of Schubert's
> symphony is to be included at this point? if not, I would suggest
> changing the content of the<head>  to something like "Extract from
> Schubert's B minor symphony"
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Martin Holmes
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