[tei-council] Fwd: Some more on notatedMusic to the council

[Martin Holmes]

 > perhaps we're getting hung up on the word "transclude". let's go
 > back to HTML - to my mind<graphic>  ==<img>  and
 > <ptr>  ==<a>.  which are surely different beasts?

This was exactly my point: We CAN'T look to XHTML, because it's a format 
with clearly-defined user-agent rules, and the tags you mention have 
their meaning in the context of those rules. TEI is not the same kind of 
beast at all. In XHTML, <a> means "create a hyperlink/anchor", and <img> 
means "render an image here". But there can't be such meanings in TEI; 
they can inhere only in the CSS or the XSLT or whatever that is later 
used to render the TEI.

You may argue that I can hide my <img> in XHTML, if I like, using CSS; 
but that's beside the point: there is a default CSS stylesheet that is 
agreed upon and specified, so there is a default rendering for XHTML. 
There's no such thing for TEI.

Cheers,
Martin

On 11-06-28 12:29 PM, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
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> On 28 Jun 2011, at 20:23, Martin Holmes wrote:
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>>> Hmm. "XInclude has lots of support" (MH) "XInclude ... is pretty
>>> badly supported". (SR)
>>
>> oXygen supports it; XMLSpy supports it; Java supports it (since 1.5);
>> Saxon supports it; eXist has partial support for it.
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> but only the crude simple import, not the cool stuff with xpointer. anyway,
> I am probably wrong, I thought saxon did not support it.
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>>> And, like Sebastian, I think<ptr>   does something else.
>>
>> What exactly does it do, though? What's the difference between
>> transcluding binary data and pointing at it, in a situation in which we
>> don't actually import it all into a<binaryObject>?
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> perhaps we're getting hung up on the word "transclude". let's go
> back to HTML - to my mind<graphic>  ==<img>  and
> <ptr>  ==<a>.  which are surely different beasts?
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