[tei-council] invalid examples allowed in Guidelines?

Lou Burnard lou.burnard at oucs.ox.ac.uk
Mon Jan 10 21:31:11 EST 2011

I agree that we should fix as many as possible and will try to do so as 
soon as I can reliably identify the ones that need attention.

The ones that cannot be fixed -- because they are deliberately schematic 
-- should in my view be recoded as CDATA marked sections. This would 
have the advantage that they will be visually distinct from the "real" 
examples. The text around them should also explicitlky draw attention to 
the fact that these are not valid examples.

On 10/01/11 11:43, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
> On 10 Jan 2011, at 11:28, Laurent Romary wrote:
>> This leads me to identify two aspects:
>> - indicating that one should or should not try to validate an example.
>> Mimicking the its:translate attribute (cf. http://www.w3.org/TR/its/),
>> we could think of something like validate="yes" (resp. "no") when we
>> want to indicate that an example is to be validated by whatever
>> processor
> unfortunately, I cannot see any way using NVDL to implement such
> an idea.
> P5 implements its example parsing by using an NVLD script which
> says that islands in the namespace http://www.tei-c.org/ns/Examples
> should be validated against p5odds-examples.rng - the mapping
> from namespace to schema is managed externally.
> We could implement support for a namespace
> http://www.tei-c.org/ns/ExamplesUnparsed, I suppose.
> But is it worth the trouble? does anyone want to do it?
> Personally, I think we should fix as many of these as we
> can to make sure they _are_ valid. There are not many
> occasions when the invalidity is justified. eg I showed one
> to Lou yesterday which had
> <list>
>    <head>…</head>
> </list>
> and is thus invalid 'cos at least one item is needed. In that
> case it seems obvious to me that we should add one
> item and  a comment saying "and more…" or whatever.
> Otherwise a reader may genuinely think this is legal.
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