[tei-council] Influential Blogs?

Sebastian Rahtz sebastian.rahtz at oucs.ox.ac.uk
Thu Mar 25 18:22:26 EDT 2010

On 25 Mar 2010, at 22:09, O'Donnell, Dan wrote:

> completely locked down. Like any project, AccessTEI wants its schemas to 
> change more slowly than the ODD might, especially if we on council pick 
> up and look at some of the ideas for development we've been discussing 
> here over the last while.

So what you really want is for Tite to be tied to a specific release of the TEI.
Even when we move to ODD-by-inclusion, new TEI versions may still make
changes that percolate to Tite.

>  meaning (at the moment) that we 
> needed to do some hand tweaking (removing examples, for example, that 
> contained elements not found in Tite or used them in alternate ways when 
> Tite restricts prefers one method over the other).

what are you giving the folks in India? obviously the schema has no
examples in. You mean you are giving them a cut-down version of P5
Guidelines based on Tite? thats fine, of course, but why do you need to
hand-edit anything? you can describe all the example changes you need in the

> So what I meant was that, again like most of us when we start our 
> projects, AccessTEI developed a schema and coding guidelines based on 
> the way the Tite ODD was on the day it was generated (this is what I 
> meant by an instantiation); but it won't be returning to the ODD to 
> generate new schemas and documentation

ever? you mean your manual changes and the original ODD will get out
of sync. That sounds, excuse me, like a complete disaster which makes
me very unhappy. But hopefully I am misunderstanding :-}

> So while initially (at our last teleco, for example) I thought--with Lou 
> and others--that it might be necessary to do some work on and locking 
> down of the Tite ODD in order to start the Apex training programme, on 
> reflection and discussion, it became clear that in actual fact there was 
> nothing we needed to do to the ODD--all the issues involved tweaking and 
> cleaning up artefacts of the generation process in response to the 
> specific demands of the training programme for the keyers. So baiscally 
> we generated the schemas from the canonical ODD and then did the kind of 
> by-hand removal of examples that don't work so well in Tite that we were 
> discussing at Council when we raised the problem a couple of weeks ago 
> or so.

as I said, there are no examples in the schema(s), so I am guess you mean
the documentation, which is presumably non-normative anyway.

The phrase "tweaking and cleaning up artefacts of the generation process"
comes over to me like a red rag to a bull, I am afraid. 

Sebastian Rahtz      
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