[tei-council] Suppressed text: summary of position (FR 2242434)

[Peter Boot]

I am not convinced that <sic> doesn't work here. The definition of sic 
does not refer to scribal error alone, but just says 'reproduced 
although apparently incorrect or inaccurate' and this applies in the 
examples we have been given. Similarly, elsewhere in the Guidelines, it 
is said that sic is used to 'mark passages considered by the transcriber 
to be erroneous'.

However, if most of us feel that we need a specialised element, I won't 
object. It that case, I agree with Gabriel we need a term that is 
descriptive, and I can't think of a better word than superfluous either.

Peter

Gabriel Bodard schreef:
> For what it's worth, I really don't like the idea of the element name 
> being a processing instruction (if nothing else because most editions 
> *don't* actually want to completely suppress or expunge said text). I 
> want the element name to mean, "This text is in the source text, but the 
> editor things it doesn't really belong/was included in error."
> 
> I personally can't think of anything better than <superfluous>, and only 
> tried to think of something shorter in case anyone objected to such a 
> long element name.
> 
> (Are there any objections to the element per se, before we get embroiled 
> in naming wars?)
> 
> G
> 
> David Sewell a écrit :
>> I don't have a strong case to make pro or con the proposal from the
>> point of view of epigraphy or manuscript editing, not being a
>> specialist. However, I would vote for the element with the name
>> <suppress> (not <suppressed>) because of its utility as a
>> quasi-processing instruction for born-digital documents. Suppose I am
>> writing minutes for a TEI Board discussion of the TEI Tite bids that
>> includes names of vendors. But those names should be kept confidential
>> in any Web version of the minutes. So:
>>
>>  We agreed that <suppress reason="redact">Vendor X</suppress> is ...
>>
>> which could be rendered as
>>
>>  We agreed that [redacted] is ...
>>
>> Of course there are other ways to accomplish the same thing, and I do
>> not feel passionate about this if someone has a good objection.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>>
>>> On 30 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Elena Pierazzo wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know Sebastian said that tomorrow (today) was the last possible
>>>> day to
>>>> include new stuff for the next release, but I feared we arrived a bit
>>>> last-moment, especially because we are actually reopening the games
>>>> for
>>>> the element name (see the message at the very bottom). If we missed
>>>> the
>>>> deadline, we apologise...
>>>>
>>> its ok, if everyone agrees, we can get this in the release.
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