[tei-council] [Fwd: Humanites E-Book]

[David Sewell]

My press director, it turns out, doesn't know the Humanities E-Book
directors terribly well (met them once, like myself). So... if we want
to raise with them the issue of having their texts TEI P5-compliant, it
probably falls to Council or Board to approach them. As I believe Lou
discovered, technical details of their encoding practice are available
on their website,

http://www.humanitiesebook.org/xml-books.html

(White Paper No. 1 discusses at some length the derivation of their DTD
from TEI Lite.)

Dan, is this something for Board to discuss?

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Lou Burnard wrote:

> Thanks David for this excellent suggestion.
>
> Meanwhile, i think it would be useful to start work on seeing just how
> close to being a pure TEI subset the dtd actually is, modulo a few tag
> renamings.... I'm happy to look into that next week.
>
> Lou
>
> David Sewell wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > There are indeed political considerations here, and we need to proceed
> > sensitively.
> >
> > Earlier this year, the ACLS Humanities E-Book folks put together a
> > proposal to expand their system so that the broad range of publishers
> > represented by the AAUP (Association of American University Presses,
> > which covers US + Canada plus publishers with branches here, like Oxford
> > and Cambridge) could include all sorts of monographs within that system.
> > I have not been directly involved in talks about that, but the director
> > of U of Virginia Press has. She also knows the directors of ACLS
> > Humanities E-Book, Eileen Gardiner and Ron Musto, better than I do (I
> > was one a panel with them once). In addition, she is a past president of
> > the AAUP.
> >
> > Let me suggest that I ask Penny whether she would feel comfortable
> > raising with them on our (TEI Council's) behalf the concern about
> > compatibility with TEI P5 and the offer to collaborate on mapping. We
> > can put this in the context of increasing use of TEI as an archival and
> > publishing standard, and the desirability of avoiding "orphan"
> > implementations of TEI. At the same time we need to recognize that the
> > ACLS has a viable, longstanding, working publication platform, and I
> > would hope that we can extend an offer of collaboration without seeming
> > too colonial ("bringing the light of P5 civilisation to the quaint
> > tribal cultures").
> >
> > Does that make sense?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Lou wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I agree 100% that this is the right course of action from the Council's
> >> point of view.
> >>
> >> There remains the political question of how this disagreeable state of
> >> affairs came into being but we probably don't want to discuss that here.
> >>
> >> Gabriel Bodard wrote:
> >>
> >>> It would be great to learn more about that "local practice" so that it
> >>> can be mapped to P5 (and/or, perhaps in some cases, P5 adapted to admit it).
> >>>
> >>> (He says, speaking from EpiDoc experience of turning a _highly_
> >>> customized P4 DTD into a fully conformant P5 schema.)
> >>>
> >>> G
> >>>
> >>> Lou Burnard a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> I received the following from Kevin and am meditating a reply.
> >>>>
> >>>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>>> Subject: Humanites E-Book
> >>>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:59:28 +0100
> >>>> From: Kevin Hawkins <kevin.s.hawkins at ultraslavonic.info>
> >>>> To: Lou Burnard <lou.burnard at oucs.ox.ac.uk>, "Paul F. Schaffner"
> >>>> <PFSchaffner at umich.edu>
> >>>>
> >>>> Per the conversation at Council that Paul mentioned to me, Humanities
> >>>> E-book requires publishers to provide XML in a format that my
> >>>> predecessors defined for them.  It's derived from the Text Class DTD
> >>>> used in DLXS, which in turn is derived from TEI Lite P3, with local
> >>>> practice grafted on top.
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