[tei-council] [Fwd: Humanites E-Book]

[Paul F. Schaffner]

I have not looked at the ACLS dtd, but if it really is based on the 
'Textclass' scheme, well, my impression of the latter is that it is 
intended to be very flexible indeed, since its purpose is to serve as the 
target of simple transformations from nearly any (publisher-supplied 
proprietary) scheme. In short: everything is allowed everywhere.

Perhaps the ACLS dtd is more restrictive, since its purpose is much
narrower. The TCP texts are converted to the Textclass XML dtd before
being indexed for retrieval, both here at Michigan and at Oxford, as are
most of our humanities collections from outside sources, e.g. the
Chadwyck-Healey databases (English Poetry, English Prose Drama, etc.). 
That is my only experience with Textclass (I have none with ACLS), but if 
I can be of any help, if only as a go-between, I gladly will.

pfs


On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Lou Burnard wrote:

> Thanks David for this excellent suggestion.

Meanwhile, i think it would be useful to start work on seeing just how 
close to being a pure TEI subset the dtd actually is, modulo a few tag 
renamings.... I'm happy to look into that next week.

Lou

David Sewell wrote:
> All,
>
> There are indeed political considerations here, and we need to proceed
> sensitively.
>
> Earlier this year, the ACLS Humanities E-Book folks put together a
> proposal to expand their system so that the broad range of publishers
> represented by the AAUP (Association of American University Presses,
> which covers US + Canada plus publishers with branches here, like Oxford
> and Cambridge) could include all sorts of monographs within that system.
> I have not been directly involved in talks about that, but the director
> of U of Virginia Press has. She also knows the directors of ACLS
> Humanities E-Book, Eileen Gardiner and Ron Musto, better than I do (I
> was one a panel with them once). In addition, she is a past president of
> the AAUP.
>
> Let me suggest that I ask Penny whether she would feel comfortable
> raising with them on our (TEI Council's) behalf the concern about
> compatibility with TEI P5 and the offer to collaborate on mapping. We
> can put this in the context of increasing use of TEI as an archival and
> publishing standard, and the desirability of avoiding "orphan"
> implementations of TEI. At the same time we need to recognize that the
> ACLS has a viable, longstanding, working publication platform, and I
> would hope that we can extend an offer of collaboration without seeming
> too colonial ("bringing the light of P5 civilisation to the quaint
> tribal cultures").
>
> Does that make sense?
>
>
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Lou wrote:
>
> 
>> I agree 100% that this is the right course of action from the Council's
>> point of view.
>>
>> There remains the political question of how this disagreeable state of
>> affairs came into being but we probably don't want to discuss that here.
>>
>> Gabriel Bodard wrote:
>> 
>>> It would be great to learn more about that "local practice" so that it
>>> can be mapped to P5 (and/or, perhaps in some cases, P5 adapted to admit it).
>>>
>>> (He says, speaking from EpiDoc experience of turning a _highly_
>>> customized P4 DTD into a fully conformant P5 schema.)
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>> Lou Burnard a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> I received the following from Kevin and am meditating a reply.
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Humanites E-Book
>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:59:28 +0100
>>>> From: Kevin Hawkins <kevin.s.hawkins at ultraslavonic.info>
>>>> To: Lou Burnard <lou.burnard at oucs.ox.ac.uk>, "Paul F. Schaffner"
>>>> <PFSchaffner at umich.edu>
>>>>
>>>> Per the conversation at Council that Paul mentioned to me, Humanities
>>>> E-book requires publishers to provide XML in a format that my
>>>> predecessors defined for them.  It's derived from the Text Class DTD
>>>> used in DLXS, which in turn is derived from TEI Lite P3, with local
>>>> practice grafted on top.
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