[tei-council] pb, lb

Mon Nov 17 12:08:45 EST 2008

I've just checked through the guidelines, and I must say I cannot find 
any obviously inconsistent uses. The text quite explicitly recommends 
that <lb/> should be given at the start of a line, rather than its end, 
and that is what all the examples I can find do. Can you point to the 
examples you have in mind?

The only variant behaviour I found is whether or not a <lb> is given at 
the start of elements such as <p> or <head>, where one might reasonably 
argue that they are implicit. This omission is explicitly licenced in 
the guidelines:  "By convention, the start
of a metrical line implies the start of a typographic line; hence
there is no need to introduce an <gi>lb</gi> tag at the start of every
<gi>l</gi> element, but only at places where a new typographic line
starts  within a metrical line, as in the following example:"(see 
http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/CO.html#COVE)
It's debatable whether this implied lb should be applicable to cases 
like <rubric> and other quotes within an <msItem> -- I'd say probably not.

But in any case, I don't see the argument as implying that *all* <lb/>s 
be explicitly marked.

Ciula, Arianna wrote:

> Hi Laurent,
> 
> this is nothing new, but the old argument of milestones such as <lb/> to 
> be used at the '(b) beginning' of a new textual status of some kind. 
> This is why I just sent my message as a reply to a thread dating back to 
> September 2007 (see my message to the council sent on the 13th of November).
> 
> Arianna
> 
> Laurent Romary wrote:
>> Arianna,
>> Can you ellaborate on this. I did not grasp the argument.
>> Laurent
>>
>> Le 17 nov. 08 à 13:30, Arianna Ciula a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> Peter Boot wrote:
>>>
>>>>> <docTitle>
>>>>>  <titlePart type="main">
>>>>>   <lb/>THE
>>>>>  <lb/>Pilgrim's Progress
>>>>>  <lb/>FROM
>>>>>  <lb/>THIS WORLD,
>>>>>  <lb/>TO
>>>>>  <lb/>That which is to come:
>>>>>  </titlePart>
>>>>> <!-- etc. -->
>>>>> </docTitle>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and that <lb/> at the beginning is not consistent with other
>>>>> examples...
>>>> I would say that there might be cases where a docTitle does not
>>>> necessarily begin on a new line. For projects that encounter that
>>>> situation, an initial <lb> might be necessary in the cases where it
>>>> does.
>>> The thing is that the inconsistency is not about the encoding of
>>> material within <docTitle> but rather the use of <lb/> at the
>>> begging or
>>> end of a line in examples within the guidelines.
>>>
>>> Arianna
>>>
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