Re: [sixties-l] Bedtime for Democracy

Date: 01/04/01

  • Next message: Jerry West: "Re: [sixties-l] Bedtime for Democracy"

    In a message dated 1/4/1 9:04:42 AM, writes:
    << Jerry: The point is that Stew and you have different definitions of
    socialism. I think Stew understands it in the classical sense of an end to
    private ownership of the means of production. You understand it as any
    reforms that take the sharp edges off capitalism. >>
    Bill - I actually look at it more from the point of view of why production is 
    taking place - is it mostly for profit or is it to serve the needs of the 
    community. Ownership can be governmental, cooperative and yes private but it 
    must serve the communal need (to be socialist) - and of course (to protect it 
    from corruption) the community must decide this for itself - ie democracy. I 
    don't regard every bit of state ownership as a bit of socialism. For instance 
    most prisons are still owned by the state and provide their services to 
    inmates for free (like they always did to me in Santa Rita) and yet I can not 
    bring myself to portray this as socialism.--Stew -

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