Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 19, No. 342.
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[1] From: Timothy Mason <timothyjpmason_at_gmail.com> (6)
Subject: Re: 19.338 wordprocessing, foul papers, genetic study?
[2] From: "Espen S. Ore" <espen.ore_at_nb.no> (34)
Subject: Re: 19.338 wordprocessing, foul papers, genetic study?
[3] From: Matt Kirschenbaum <mkirschenbaum_at_gmail.com> (16)
Subject: Re: 19.338 wordprocessing, foul papers, genetic study?
[4] From: Pat Galloway <galloway_at_ischool.utexas.edu> (23)
Subject: Re: 19.338 wordprocessing, foul papers, genetic study?
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:42:03 +0100
From: Timothy Mason <timothyjpmason_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 19.337 contemplation and computing
Willard, there is a programme that primary-school teachers use which
follows and reconstructs the way the pupils create a text. The
pedagogue can then follow the exact trail that the infant has taken
in writing it. I must admit that when I first encountered this
utility, it made me very thoughtful.
Timothy Mason
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:43:05 +0100
From: "Espen S. Ore" <espen.ore_at_nb.no>
Subject: Re: 19.338 wordprocessing, foul papers, genetic study?
Humanist Discussion Group (by way of Willard McCarty
<willard.mccarty_at_kcl.ac.uk>) skrev 13.10.2005 08:19:
>A colleague offline to Humanist has forwarded me a question about the
>impact of wordprocessing on authorial studies, i.e.
>"whether email [is] cutting down collections of writers' letters.
>(The old effect-of-the-telephone-question). Well, not if they're
>saved, but I'm thinking of broader issues. Word-processing revision
>before saving can be lost; if saved, however much subsequently
>superseded, (.wbk) files can be retrieved until they fall off the end
>of the hard disk ie a technician can recover them. Are any writers
>backing up subsequently succeeded saved versions? Are they being
>encouraged to? (Many universities keep daily backups for you.) Are
>any research libraries asking for writers' hard disks?....
The National Library of Norway has as one of its aims collecting
manuscripts from what is considered important Norwegian authors. In
2001 there was a meeting/seminar at the NL where some living authors
handed over manuscript material - some of it on floppy-disks. The
deeper problems - what is kept for genetic study of texts etc. was
not really discussed, but is indeed important.
One modern author where some drafts etc. have been extracted from a
harddisk after the author's death, is Douglas Adams:
http://www.sfsite.com/~silverag/salmon.html
In fact there has also (it seems) been some unintended excavation of
Adams' files:
http://www.mandrake.demon.co.uk/Apple/iifx.html
The meeting at the NL in Oslo, is documented in a small article in
the annual report from 2001 (in Norwegian only):
http://www.nb.no/content/download/1087/10209/file/arsmelding2001_2.pdf
In the same annual report there is also a report from the project
Paradigma where the aim is to harvest *all* Norwegian webpages. This
will of course also include some mailing-list material where that is
available via the web.
Espen Ore
National Library of Norway, Oslo
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:43:57 +0100
From: Matt Kirschenbaum <mkirschenbaum_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 19.338 wordprocessing, foul papers, genetic study?
Willard,
A response I wrote to the original NY Times piece about writers and
their "lost" email:
http://www.otal.umd.edu/~mgk/blog/archives/000848.html
And a call for participation for a project that will use Subversion to
archive drafts of literary work in progress:
http://www.otal.umd.edu/~mgk/blog/archives/000847.html
Matt
-- Matthew Kirschenbaum Assistant Professor of English Acting Associate Director, Maryland Institute for Technology in the Humanities (MITH) 301-405-8505 or 301-314-7111 (fax) http://www.mith.umd.edu/ http://www.otal.umd.edu/~mgk/ --[4]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:45:11 +0100 From: Pat Galloway <galloway_at_ischool.utexas.edu> Subject: Re: 19.338 wordprocessing, foul papers, genetic study? Willard, A group of my digital archives students has worked/is working with Michael Joyce's collection that is being accessioned by the Harry Ransom Humanities Research Center at the University of Texas. They will be publishing a paper on the process in the spring, in which they detail the digital archaeology process of recovering Mac files of many versions of (e.g.) Afternoon from old floppies, as well as preserving file-system structures, original file names, and detailed metadata on software versions used to create the files; we even persuaded the Center to retain the old floppies with their palimpsest labels, even if they become unreadable, simply because they reinforce the authenticity of the files themselves and provide evidence of authorial practice too. More recently the Center has received a DVD from Joyce that is a mirror of a hard drive as well, so the work continues. As a literature specialist I am interested in this side of the archival task, and we expect to work with the Ransom Center on other collections with other problems going forward. A lot of this is going to depend on authorial practice, but as you probably know the Ransom Center is interested especially in the creative process, so we are investigating ways to recover as much of the authorial environment as possible. Remembering that even in paper, people like Eudora Welty chose to destroy everything. Pat GallowayReceived on Fri Oct 14 2005 - 01:58:10 EDT
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