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[1] From: Dino Buzzetti <buzzetti_at_philo.unibo.it> (38)
Subject: Re: 19.240 many taxonomies vs the massively encoded
[2] From: Eric H. <eric.homich_at_utoronto.ca> (15)
Subject: Re: 19.246 many taxonomies vs the massively encoded
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Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:08:11 +0100
From: Dino Buzzetti <buzzetti_at_philo.unibo.it>
Subject: Re: 19.240 many taxonomies vs the massively encoded
Willard,
I am very glad you raise this point:
> Markup, our flavour of the decade, seems to promote an
> excessive tendency to cement in whatever we know how to describe.
> We've got to move on. But how?
Well, it would take long to answer. Let me just hint to what I have
in mind. Take the title of Lynne Truss' bestseller on punctuation:
(a) Eats, shoots and leaves .
You may be puzzled and remove the comma to realize that we are talking
about a panda, who indeed
(b) Eats shoots and leaves .
By reading (a) you are puzzled because you assume that the comma,
actually *markup* (I spare the argument to prove it), is part of
the text. And it is, actually. As it is also a metalinguistic
device to assign (b) one of two possible interpretations. As
soon as you do it, you assume that your diacritical sign (or tag,
for that matter) is part of the text.
My surmise is that markup is a diacritical sign to distinguish between
alternative interpretations, or taxonomies. Just as relatively late
in the history of writing, spaces have been introduced between
characters to distinguish words. One tries to freeze a mobile
and basically indeterminate thing such as text, but hardly:
text is not self-identical ,
as Jerome McGann has nicely put it.
My point is that we have to accept this basic fact and come to
realize that markup is essentially ambiguous and indeterminate like
text. And try to put this indeterminacy to good use by developing
appropriate tools to deal with it. Otherwise we have to resign
to markup overload and to live with fixed taxonomies.
The same would apply to ontologies, now so popular, but I dare not
say it too loud...
Yours, -dino buzzetti
-- Dino Buzzetti <buzzetti_at_philo.unibo.it> Department of Philosophy University of Bologna tel. +39 051 20 98357 via Zamboni, 38 fax 98355 I-40126 Bologna BO --[2]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:09:21 +0100 From: Eric H. <eric.homich_at_utoronto.ca> Subject: Re: 19.246 many taxonomies vs the massively encoded Dear Humanists: The following article may provide some fodder for discussion (note: it's a PDF): <http://www.ala.org/ala/alonline/selectedarticles/googlevsonsite.pdf> One of my first reactions to reading this is that our products should be designed by those who use the products rather than those who know the technology. This of course, is a prime theme of HCI, but still sadly lacking in practice. A good overview of classification is given in "Sorting Things Out: Classification and Its Consequences" by Geoffrey C. Bowker & Susan Leigh Star. MIT Press, 2000. Eric Homich PhD student Faculty of Information Studies University of TorontoReceived on Sat Sep 03 2005 - 19:12:20 EDT
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