Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 14, No. 543. Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London <http://www.princeton.edu/~mccarty/humanist/> <http://www.kcl.ac.uk/humanities/cch/humanist/> [1] From: Leo Robert Klein <lk13@is2.nyu.edu> (32) Subject: Re: 14.0536 corporate universities & events relating to [2] From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@kcl.ac.uk> (41) Subject: corporations and universities --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 17:36:23 +0000 From: Leo Robert Klein <lk13@is2.nyu.edu> Subject: Re: 14.0536 corporate universities & events relating to on Sat, 02 Dec 2000, James L. Morrison wrote: > Jeanne Meister, president of Corporate University Xchange(CUX), who I > interviewed in the July/August 2000 issue of The Technology Source > (http://horizon.unc.edu/TS/vision/2000-07.asp) on the topic of corporate > universities, asked me to mention the first two CUX events of 2001. She > has offered a registration discount to TS readers. <...> > I was impressed during my interview with Jeanne that there are currently > more than 1,600 organizations titled "corporate universities," "corporate > colleges," or "institutes for learning." She expects this number to rise > to more than 2,000 in the next few years, and forecasts that by the year > 2010 or so, corporate universities will outnumber traditional > universities. Both conferences feature today's most successful corporate > sector learning innovators addressing the issues that e-learners and those > organizations making the transition to e-learning are confronting and how > we can use this information to design online learning courses and > programs. "Managing education as a business project" (from the interview) isn't exactly the first thing that comes to my mind when contemplating a university education. I mean, I wonder what the role of things like critical thinking and the liberal arts, free inquiry and, God forbid, dissent, are at places like this. Or are those things to be relegated to poorly funded and all too easy to marginalize "public" institutions? What's next -- what's the next cultural or social value not of one's own making that's going to be appropriated? Religion? Opps, I just remembered "Divine Right" George Baer. LEO --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leo Robert Klein Library Web Coordinator home ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: http://patachon.com office ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: http://newman.baruch.cuny.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --[2]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 17:36:41 +0000 From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@kcl.ac.uk> Subject: corporations and universities The idea of a corporate university is chilling to many of us for all the obvious reasons. Some of us work for small companies that are careful in their combination of research and profit-making, but I've seldom been encouraged to think that scholarly enquiry could survive for long in a corporate environment. This would appear to be borne out in the universities in which the curriculum is strongly influenced by the business world. My impression is that the business-orientated types don't have time for the asking of questions meant to problematise rather than solve problems. My impression is that they look on universities as skill-training centres, for which they are ill-suited. Perhaps a Sinologist will kindly correct me, but I do recall an anecdote about Confucius being asked what one change he would see made in the world; his answer was, that things be called by their correct names. Why, then, train someone how skillfully to push buttons and move a mouse, then give him or her a university degree? This seems to me madness on two counts. First the skills-training isn't academic as such, so the degree is inappropriate. If the skills-training is embedded in and serves an academic purpose, as learning how to use Excel can serve the analysis of complex numerical data in a research project, or learning the ins and outs of a concordancer can serve the understanding of language, then fine. Our undergraduate minor programme at King's College London works in that way. But if a course trains students in Excel and Access, say, but gives them no experience in thinking critically with these tools, does not put a critical understanding of the limitations of computational methods centre stage, then to my mind the course does not belong in a university programme -- however valuable, however well done, however popular. This leads me to my second point. Which is: "dignifying" skills-training by attaching an academic degree to it implicitly degrades the craft. It seems to me that it merely internalises a snobbish attitude toward skills and then makes a lunge for the coveted prize, which it thereby denegrates. Far better, it would seem to me, would be to recognise two very different kinds of training WITHOUT attributing social class to either. Comments? Yours, WM ----- Dr Willard McCarty / Senior Lecturer / Centre for Computing in the Humanities / King's College London / Strand / London WC2R 2LS / U.K. / +44 (0)20 7848-2784 / ilex.cc.kcl.ac.uk/wlm/
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