Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 14, No. 469. Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London <http://www.princeton.edu/~mccarty/humanist/> <http://www.kcl.ac.uk/humanities/cch/humanist/> [1] From: Wendell Piez <wapiez@mulberrytech.com> (18) Subject: Re: 14.0464 XML & the WWW [2] From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@kcl.ac.uk> (29) Subject: for the XML-unaware [3] From: Randall Pierce <rpierce@jsucc.jsu.edu> (22) Subject: technology --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 14:41:16 +0000 From: Wendell Piez <wapiez@mulberrytech.com> Subject: Re: 14.0464 XML & the WWW Fotis-- At 08:45 AM 11/2/00 +0000, you wrote: >btw, I don't think that xml aware clients will be the solution for this >problem, because of the size of the editions. How large do you expect these editions to be? Why would server-side processing be better for large editions? Or possibly I mistake you. If you mean to say XML-aware clients will not be the *entire* solution to the problem, I agree. Cheers, Wendell ====================================================================== Wendell Piez mailto:wapiez@mulberrytech.com Mulberry Technologies, Inc. http://www.mulberrytech.com 17 West Jefferson Street Direct Phone: 301/315-9635 Suite 207 Phone: 301/315-9631 Rockville, MD 20850 Fax: 301/315-8285 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mulberry Technologies: A Consultancy Specializing in SGML and XML --[2]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 14:51:06 +0000 From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@kcl.ac.uk> Subject: for the XML-unaware In case anyone who is ignorant of XML is nevertheless intrigued by that aspect of the ongoing discussion about hypertext, you might see the following: DeRose, Steven J. 1999. XML Linking. <http://www.cs.brown.edu/memex/ACM_HypertextTestbed/papers/47.html>. Specifications to enable more advanced hypertext functionality on the Web: in particular fine-grained anchors, external annotation, and bi-directional links; HTML linking limitations. ----- et al. 2000. XML Linking Language (XLink) Version 1.0. <http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/CR-xlink-20000703/>. World Wide Web Consortium specification; defines the XML Linking Language (XLink), which allows elements to be inserted into XML documents in order to create and describe links between resources. It uses XML syntax to create structures that can describe links similar to the simple unidirectional hyperlinks of today's HTML, as well as more sophisticated links Gronbaek, K. et al. 2000. Open Hypermedia as User Controlled Meta Data for the Web. WWW 2000. <http://www9.org/w9cdrom/>. Application of the Open Hypermedia idea to the Web via metadata specifications for XML. Verbyla, Janet. 1999. Unlinking the Link. <http://www.cs.brown.edu/memex/ACM_HypertextTestbed/papers/61.html>. An overview of hypermedia linking: the essence of the idea; the limitations of conception in HTML; potential alternatives; the promise of XML. More references useful to the uninitiated would be very welcome. Yours, WM ----- Dr Willard McCarty / Senior Lecturer / Centre for Computing in the Humanities / King's College London / Strand / London WC2R 2LS / U.K. / +44 (0)20 7848-2784 / ilex.cc.kcl.ac.uk/wlm/ --[3]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 14:53:28 +0000 From: Randall Pierce <rpierce@jsucc.jsu.edu> Subject: technology I have noticed some "tension" between those in what may be considered "hard" sciences as opposed to what some call "soft" science. Hard sciences are technology-based and those which have strong quantitive characteristics, such as mathematics, medicine, physics, etc. "Soft" sciences are usually thought of as including history, sociology, psychology and philosophy. Admittedly, many of these have their quantitive properties , such as cliometrics in history. I am mentioning this in relation to the post of Stephen Miller on "Technological Determinism". Technology is very important. Certain inventions have revolutionized human society. Gutenberg's printing press comes to mind. But technology, although it is very often what lets the genie out of the bottle, is not usually what creates the need for the genie. Why was the printing press invented? It met the need created by the Scholasticism of the late Medieval and early Renaissance periods. I once quoted a principle in History of Science: "When it is time to railroad, you railroad." I feel that technology answers needs. Or it is still-born. Think of all the technological "revolutions" in your fields which were "stillborn" because the need was not apparent. I do not mean this "diatribe" to be anti-technological, but as Stephen Miller put it, to make human progress fully three -dimensional by putting technology in the context of its historical setting. Why is hyper-text so important now? What need does it fill in our society? Thank you for your consideration. Randall
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