6.0129 Rs: H/W, S/W: OCRs; TOPS; MAC Access; Fonts (5/109)

Elaine Brennan & Allen Renear (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Mon, 13 Jul 1992 16:44:03 EDT

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 6, No. 0129. Monday, 13 Jul 1992.


(1) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 92 9:48 BST (15 lines)
From: PARKINSON@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Subject: RE: 6.0121 Qs: Indexes; OCRs (2/24)

(2) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1992 12:06:41 PDT (16 lines)
From: cb@xis.xerox.com (Christopher Bader)
Subject: Re: 6.0125 Rs: OCRs

(3) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 92 10:18:21 BST (43 lines)
From: Donald A Spaeth <GKHA13@CMS.GLASGOW.AC.UK>
Subject: Periperals and Networks

(4) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 92 22:21:51 ITA (25 lines)
From: maurizio lana <LANA@ITOCSIVM>
Subject: MAC software similar to PC CDROM access software of Penn Univ.?

(5) Date: Mon, 13 JUL 92 10:37:15 BST (10 lines)
From: CATHERINE@VAX.OXFORD.AC.UK
Subject: Re: 6.0128 Q: Cyrillic Fonts for Windows?

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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 92 9:48 BST
From: PARKINSON@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Subject: RE: 6.0121 Qs: Indexes; OCRs (2/24)

I am surprised at James Marchand's dismissal of OPTOPUS. I was not the only
one to be greatly impressed by it at the ACH-ALLC conference in April, and
I am seeking ways to buy one to read paleographical transcriptions of Early
Portuguese texts. By way of contrast, my Portuguese colleagues' experience
with Omnipage Pro has left me with a large question mark over its
trainability. It seems to be easy to train it to correct text that has
already been scanned in: but they have not found out how to get it to memorize
a font and apply it to text subsequently scanned in...
Stephen Parkinson
Taylor Institution
Oxford University
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1992 12:06:41 PDT
From: cb@xis.xerox.com (Christopher Bader)
Subject: Re: 6.0125 Rs: OCRs (3/72)

James Marchand will be pleased to learn that all OCR products
from Kurzweil (now Xerox Imaging Systems) are once again trainable,
and do an excellent job on languages that use the Roman alphabet
like Icelandic or Irish. With some work, they can also be made
to work with non-Roman alphabets like Cyrillic and Greek.

XIS can be reached at (800) 248-6550.


Christopher Bader
Senior Software Engineer
Xerox Imaging Systems
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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 92 10:18:21 BST
From: Donald A Spaeth <GKHA13@CMS.GLASGOW.AC.UK>
Subject: Periperals and Networks

Tops is a good solution for small networks, e.g. between an IBM and a
Mac, because it does not require a dedicated server. Any computer
on the network can publish any number of disks/volumes,
folders/directories and files. Once published, these can be read
by either machines on the network. In theory, a volume could
just as easily be a CD-ROM as a hard disk, but you will have to check
with the makers of Tops to find out whether such theory works in
practice. PCs can also print to Mac printers via Tops; again, I don't
know whether the opposite is true.

Two caveats:

- Tops-PC requires that one buy an AppleTalk card for the PC. A few
years ago this had to be a card made by Tops; I don't know if this
is still true.

- Tops provides a mechanism for exchanging data (including text files),
not software. Ie, you will be reading files on remote computers
with the software on your own computer. You cannot run Word for
the Mac from your PC, just because TOPS has allowed you access
the file; it will need to be converted into a Word (DOS/Windows) file
(within Word for Mac/Windows) and into a PC format file (Apple File
Exchange).

The corollary for CD-ROM access is that Tops MAY allow you to access
a CD attached to a Mac, but only if you have the relevant software
to read the PC (with a driver for the Apple CD player) running on
your Mac. This isn't unlikely as it sounds, since it is possible
to run an Apple CD from a PC with a SCSI card. But there are no
guarantees. There's many a slip 'twixt cup and slip, so they say,
and there are even more when networking comes into the calculation!
It may be simpler to get a SCSI card for the PC, and move
the CD between computers. ( Or, it occurs to me, it may be possible to
chain the CD-Player, PC, and Mac. Does anyone know if this would
work?)

Yours,
Donald Spaeth
CTI
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Date: Sun, 12 Jul 92 22:21:51 ITA
From: maurizio lana <LANA@ITOCSIVM>
Subject: MAC software similar to PC CDROM access software of Penn Univ.?

Many times working on TLG texts under DOS, I used Penn University cdrom access
software (OFFLOAD and CONVERT) to do some text editing before analizing the tex
ts (e.g.: joining hyphenated words before word counts). More precisely OFFLOAD
allows to download the texts on hard disk converting the file into explicit Bet
a coding (~x, ~y, ~z codes). I know that a very strict interpretation of TLG us
er license interdicts such a thing, but no one of those texts abandoned my hdis
k...!
Now that I'm placing a feet in the Mac world, I wonder if there is a program si
milar to OFFLOAD, allowing me to transfer TLG files on hdisk and at the same ti
me converting them into explicit Beta code. And something similar to CONVERT th
at reads a Beta code file and converts the markers into clear, human!, indicati
on of paragraph, chapter, line, numbers?
Thank you.
Maurizio.

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Date: Mon, 13 JUL 92 10:37:15 BST
From: CATHERINE@VAX.OXFORD.AC.UK
Subject: Re: 6.0128 Q: Cyrillic Fonts for Windows? (1/9)

The National Academic Typesetting Service has negotiated a deal between
Monotype and CHEST to provide a site license for all British educational
institutions. One of the fonts would be Cyrillic, and it would be available
for windows. If you don't want to wait (shouldn't be long) you can buy
directly from Monotype.
Catherine Griffin