5.0667 Rs: Terms for Dislike of Males (5/106)

Elaine Brennan & Allen Renear (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Mon, 10 Feb 1992 23:08:32 EST

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 5, No. 0667. Monday, 10 Feb 1992.

(1) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 92 23:48:08 CST (7 lines)
From: pilgrim <PILGRIM@UKANVM>
Subject: Re: 5.0650 Qs: (various) (4/72

(2) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1992 08:14 EST (11 lines)
From: Leslie Morgan <MORGAN@LOYVAX.BITNET>
Subject: Re: 5.0650 Qs: (various) (4/72

(3) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1992 10:16 EST (36 lines)
From: "NAME MICHEL (MGRIMAUD@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU) GRIMAUD"
Subject: Re: 5.0650 Qs: (various) (4/72

(4) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1992 09:24 CST (19 lines)
From: "John D. Jones" <6563JONESJ@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU>
Subject: Re: 5.0650 Qs: (various) (4/72

(5) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 92 14:54:16 CST (33 lines)
From: Oliver Phillips <PHILLIPS@UKANVM>
Subject: Hating men

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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 92 23:48:08 CST
From: pilgrim <PILGRIM@UKANVM>
Subject: Re: 5.0650 Qs: (various) (4/72

msanthrop? misanthropess? msanthropess? fe-malehater? fe-man-indignation?
just a few thoughts; hope they don's ms the mark.
Pilgrim5
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1992 08:14 EST
From: Leslie Morgan <MORGAN@LOYVAX.BITNET>
Subject: Re: 5.0650 Qs: (various) (4/72

Re: male misogynist

There was a long discussion on *Humanist* about an appropriate
term a couple (or three?) years ago. It might we worthwhile
checking older files before further discussion.

Leslie Morgan, Loyola College in MD.
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1992 10:16 EST
From: "NAME MICHEL (MGRIMAUD@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU) GRIMAUD"
Subject: Re: 5.0650 Qs: (various) (4/72

Responses (and an addendum) to queries about "femmes"

1. Androphobe:
Although a neologism, perhaps, seems like a natural for people who
dislike (hate may be too strong here) males.

2. P.C. books on how to avoid sexist language:
Francine Wattman Frank & Paula A. Treichler
Language, Gender, and Professional Writing
MLA, 1989

Rosalie Maggio
The Nonsexist wordfinder.
Beacon Press, 1988

Both books are thoughtful and reason out their recommendations.


3. "Femmes"

is a new issue of the VICTOR HUGO journal I edit:
REVUE DES LETTRES MODERNES: SERIE VICTOR HUGO, volume 3
Minard, Lettres Modernes, Paris, 1991

The issue is entirely written by women on women in Hugo's life and works.
My only participation was to initiate the issue and deal with the material
aspects of the text (i.e., the boring editorial work).

Michel Grimaud
Dept of French
Wellesley College
Wellesley MA 02181
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1992 09:24 CST
From: "John D. Jones" <6563JONESJ@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU>
Subject: Re: 5.0650 Qs: (various) (4/72

This is in response to Brigitte Werneburg's request for a term comarable
to misogynist. In consulting my smaller Liddel and Scott Greek Lexicon,
I could only find "misogunes" (final e=eta; does this refer to hatred
of women in general or only hatred of women by men?) and "misantrhopos".
Presumably the latter will not do, since that refers to hatred of humankind
in general.
You might try a neologism. "andros" is the attic form of "aner" (final e=eta)
which is the term for male or man contrasted with female or woman. How
about "misandrost" for someone who hates men. Perhaps "misandrosia" might
do for hatred of men (comparable to misanthropia). However, if andros
works, perhaps others could suggest more appropriate endings.

John D. Jones
Philosophy Department
Marquette University
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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 92 14:54:16 CST
From: Oliver Phillips <PHILLIPS@UKANVM>
Subject: Hating men


Brigitte Werneburg asks:


> I am looking for the term, comparable to misogynist, for women
> who hate men.
> The dictionary was of no use, as women obviously are not >
> expected to hate men.

> I am reviewing <Helter Skelter>, art exhibition in L.A. and >
> need this word.

My Liddell and Scott Unabridged Greek English Dictionary offers
a citation from the scholia to Euripides _Andromache_ "misandria,"
hatred of men. Thus we can have a noun "misandry." These scholia
would be late-ancient or Byzantine, I suspect. A grammarian Pollux
of the second century C.E. has "misandros," hating men, thus we
should on the anology of "misogynist" and "misanthropist" say
"misandrist." Surprisingly my older _Oxford English Dictionary_
does not list anyone ever having used such words.

"Misanthropy" and "misanthropist" won't do because that entails
hating everybody.

Oliver Phillips
Department of Classics
University of Kansas
PHILLIPS@UKANVM.BITNET