5.0181 Rs: Final Pogoisms (5/69)

Elaine Brennan & Allen Renear (EDITORS@BROWNVM.BITNET)
Mon, 24 Jun 91 21:51:49 EDT

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 5, No. 0181. Monday, 24 Jun 1991.


(1) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 17:12 EST (14 lines)
From: Peter Zaas <ZAAS@SIENA>
Subject: Pogo

(2) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 16:07 MST (12 lines)
From: "Jean Pfleiderer, UMS Publications, 492-9892"
Subject: Re: 5.0173 Further Pogoisms

(3) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 17:33 MST (16 lines)
From: Sigrid Peterson <SIGPETER@UTAHCCA.BITNET>
Subject: Pogo--same line, two forms

(4) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 91 20:06:33 +0200 (21 lines)
From: ath@linkoping.telesoft.se (Anders Thulin)
Subject: Re: 5.0173 Further Pogoisms (3/91)

(5) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 91 10:13:25 EDT (6 lines)
From: Ray Craig <RCRAIG2@KENTVM>
Subject: Re: 5.0173 Further Pogoisms (3/91)

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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 91 17:12 EST
From: Peter Zaas <ZAAS@SIENA>
Subject: Pogo


My recollection, which is perfectly clear, but just as possibly faulty,
is that "We have met the enemy, and he is us," occurs as the punchline
of a Pogo parody of "Chicken Little" that was reprinted in the venerable
collection, Bennett Cerf's Household of Laughter. I read this volume
maybe 10,000 times when I was young, and remember the reprinted Pogo
strip very vividly. I can't locate a copy to verify, but I think I'm
right.

Peter Zaas
ZAAS@SIENA
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 16:07 MST
From: "Jean Pfleiderer, UMS Publications, 492-9892"
Subject: Re: 5.0173 Further Pogoisms

All right, I'll buy all that. But I distinctly remember having the
phrase "we have met the enemy and he is us" on a poster in my dorm room
while I was an undergraduate. I graduated in 1969. I think the poster
may have been locally crafted, but the attribution was definitely to
"Pogo". So let us by all means continue the search for the Ur "enemy"
which, inasmuch as he may turn out to be a figment of our collective
imagininations, is, indeed,"us".

Jean Pfleiderer
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Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1991 17:33 MST
From: Sigrid Peterson <SIGPETER@UTAHCCA.BITNET>
Subject: Pogo--same line, two forms

On the question of whether a Walt Kelly character ever said, "We have
met the enemy and he is us!" Paul Brians has specifics that ring no bell
whatsoever in my poor memory. Brian Whittaker is vague, but I agree
with his description. The scene rather resembled one from Winnie the
Pooh, and I would guess that it dates from the late fifties/early
sixties, before the demise of the _New York Herald Tribune_. No doubt
Paul Brians's description of a scene also happened; I just wasn't
watching. I was either tending an infant or out at the barricades, or
both.

Sigrid Peterson
Sigpeter@cc.utah.edu

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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 91 20:06:33 +0200
From: ath@linkoping.telesoft.se (Anders Thulin)
Subject: Re: 5.0173 Further Pogoisms (3/91)

Paul Brains writes:
>"We Have Met the Enemy and He Is Us," is the title of a collection of
>strips focussing on pollution,with a 1972 publication date. [ ... ]
>Pogo doesn't utter the words in this volume,
>but I also believe he did at some point. I remember a scene with
>Pogo and Churchy (?) [ ... ]

It was a special drawing done for Earth Day 1971, with Pogo and Porky.

Judging from `The best of Pogo', the words first appeared in the
introduction to `Pogo Papers' 1952-53. According to `Zeroing in on
those polluters: we have met the enemy and he is us', a short piece
(date ?) by W. Kelley, they are also said to have formed the title
and the theme of a Pogo motion picture `currently in the works'.

Anders Thulin ath@linkoping.telesoft.se
Telesoft AB, Teknikringen 2B, S-583 30 Linkoping, Sweden
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 91 10:13:25 EDT
From: Ray Craig <RCRAIG2@KENTVM>
Subject: Re: 5.0173 Further Pogoisms

Coincidently, the latest issue of Audobon Magazine reprints
a Pogo strip with the denied quotation in tact. Page 132, I believe.