3.181 gornisch; Urdu (45)

Willard McCarty (MCCARTY@VM.EPAS.UTORONTO.CA)
Tue, 27 Jun 89 18:48:53 EDT


Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 3, No. 181. Tuesday, 27 Jun 1989.


(1) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 89 17:47 EST (8 lines)
From: <J_FARBER@FANDM>
Subject: reply to 3.165, Daniel Boyarin (gornisch)

(2) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 89 19:46:52 EDT (17 lines)
From: Farrukh Hakeem <FBDJJ@CUNYVM.bitnet>
Subject: 3.165 Urdu?

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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 89 17:47 EST
From: <J_FARBER@FANDM>
Subject: reply to 3.165, Daniel Boyarin (gornisch)

I'm probably being naive, but gornisch looks awfully close to the Yiddish
garnisht (Mod. Germ. gar nicht). I wonder if marginal notes (scholia?) might
be referred to in a sort of deprecatory way as a "little nothing," a
petit rien. ---Joel Farber
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Date: Mon, 26 Jun 89 19:46:52 EDT
From: Farrukh Hakeem <FBDJJ@CUNYVM.bitnet>
Subject: Re: 3.165 Urdu? Swedish address? word meaning? (67)

URDU:
As an urdu speaking person from India I remember the problems that were
faced by friends who wanted to have an urdu typewriter. Urdu
developed from "Khari Boli " a language that is still
spoken in Uttar Pradesh, India. It eventually developed with a lot of
borrowing from Arabic and Persian as well as Sanskrit. However, Urdu is
quite distinct in script from both-- Arabic and Persian. It has a greater
range of sounds than either. The hard 'dh' and 'jh' are unique.
During the muslim rule it developed as the court language. After independence
in 1947, its flowery form has been in decline and is being replaced
either by Hindustani or Hindi in the Devanagiri script. In Modern India its
teaching in shools has been declining because it does not qualify as
an official language in many States of the Indian Union (except Kashmir).