[tei-council] List @type musings

[Hugh Cayless]

Agreed. These are great. No objections here.


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Martin Holmes <mholmes at uvic.ca> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> I particularly like the examples of "index", "instructions",
> "witnesses", "syllogism", and "litany"; these strike me as generic and
> textual enough that they might well be added to "gloss" as suggested
> values, and they don't have the random, arbitrary feel of
> "shoppingList", since they have an association with specific genres of
> real texts. These examples are great. This would add weight to the
> notion that @type is for this kind of thing, rather than for
> layout/style. Does anyone have any objections to my adding these five to
> the spec?
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
> On 14-08-01 08:03 AM, Paul Schaffner wrote:
> > Reflections on @type. I'm not sure that it is possible to arrive
> > at a non-arbitrary selection of possible values. But if it were,
> > these are the circuitous routes by which I would probably arrive
> > there.
> >
> > [1] @type on <list might seem analogous to @type on <div.
> >     When typing  divs I try, usually unsuccessfully, to use the attribute
> >     to represent either (1), in the case of a repeating
> >     division, the principle on which the division is made;
> >     or (2) in the case of singleton divs, the generic
> >     category into which the division falls. So in the former
> >     case if a text (say a diary) is divided by the day,
> >     type="day" or type="entry" reflects that organizing principle; if
> >     it is divided by the theorem, then @type="theorem".
> >     In the latter case, the singletons, I use lots of
> >     @type="preface" @type="index" @type="colophon" @type="license" etc.
> >     On this principle, if a list is like a div, in an index
> >     divided by the letters of the alphabet, each contained
> >     list might be typed as @type="letter" since that is the basis on
> >     which each list is distinguished from the others.
> >
> >      <div type="index">
> >       <list type="letter" n="a">
> >       <list type="letter" n="b">
> >
> >     and singleton lists should if possible be generically
> >     typed
> >
> >      <list type="instructions">
> >      <list type="witnesses">
> >
> >
> > [2] @type on <list might seem related to @type on <lg>.
> >    I tend to use @type on <lg> mostly when the
> >    type of line group has implications for its form (and by
> >    'form' I mean something more than its rendering).
> >
> >    Hence <lg type="verse paragraph"> applies to loosely
> >    formatted semanticallly based assemblies of lines, akin
> >    to prose paragraphs. <lg type="stanza"  or <lg type="refrain"
> >    apply to something more regular. And <lg type="couplet"
> >    <lg type="quatrain" obviously have strong implications
> >    for the number of lines contained in each.
> >
> >    It is probably on this basis that I tend to
> >    apply @type to <list> most often in those cases
> >    when the type has implications not only for the
> >    content but for the form of the list, or for the
> >    kind of relationships to be expected between the items, e.g.
> >
> >    <list type="syllogism">
> >      <item>All Cretans are liars.</item>
> >      <item>Menalaus is a Cretan.</item>
> >      <item>ERGO M. is a liar.</item>
> >    </list>
> >
> >    Or perhaps, using 'form' a little more loosely, for
> >    lists that border on verse:
> >
> >    <list type="litany">
> >      <item>God save us from drought.</item>
> >      <item>God save us from pestilence.</item>
> >      <item>God save us from wickedness in high places.</item>
> >      <item>Praise be to God.</item>
> >    </list>
> >
> >    or lists that map a narrowly constrained set of
> >    possible connections
> >
> >    <list type="genealogy">
> >      <item>Charles Smith m. Jane Doe
> >          <list type="offspring">
> >          <item>Bill m. June Roe
> >             <list type="offspring">
> >             <item>Junie</item>
> >             <item>Billy Jr.</item>
> >             </list>
> >          </item>
> >          <item>Charles II
> >             <list type="marriages">
> >             <item>m. Rachel R.
> >                <list type="offspring">
> >                <item>Rutabaga</item>
> >                <item>Roughage</item>
> >             </item>
> >             <item>m. Rebecca Q.
> >                <list type="offspring">
> >                <item>Querulous</item>
> >                <item>Quarrelsome (d. in a brawl.)</item>
> >                </list>
> >             </item>
> >             </list>
> >          </item>
> >          </list>
> >     </item>
> > </list>
> >
> > Our practice may, however, be eccentric.
> >
> > pfs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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