[tei-council] Linking issue in the Guidelines

[Martin Holmes]

Understood. Let's leave it until you get back, then. I don't think any 
of us have access to that area of OpenCMS, so we can't hack away at it 
ourselves, but between us we might be able to hack the JSP page to make 
it look like a TEI page. We definitely need the 404 http response.

Cheers,
Martin

On 14-02-27 10:37 AM, David Sewell wrote:
> Actually, there's another problem with this approach.
>
> The current 404 page, ugly as it is, is coded so that it properly sends
> an HTTP 404 response header. If it is replaced with a static HTML page,
> I believe that's going to send a 200 response header ("OK"). The human
> won't know/care, but anything automated that reaches a bad link won't
> know it's bad.
>
> Given the underpinnings of OpenCMS, it's probably necessary to stick
> with the JSP coding of the error pages.
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014, Martin Holmes wrote:
>
>> Try the attached page and see what it looks like.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
>>
>> On 14-02-27 09:31 AM, David Sewell wrote:
>>> I think that could be done by changing the OpenCMS type of the file from
>>> "JSP" to "text file". The styling would need to be done by manually
>>> copy-pasting from the generated HTML for a site page, because it
>>> wouldn't inherit any of the OpenCMS templates. But it wouldn't be hard
>>> to create something nicer than the existing one.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wonder if we could just replace that JSP page with a static page?
>>>> The only thing a 404 page tells you other than that something's not
>>>> found is to echo back at you the URL you tried to access, which isn't
>>>> very useful anyway, since it's in your browser address bar. A
>>>> dead-simple HTML page based on our regular templates might work as a
>>>> drop-in replacement.
>>>>
>>>> I could be misunderstanding how the JSP calls work, though.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>> On 14-02-27 06:32 AM, David Sewell wrote:
>>>>> I have just taken a quick look to see what I can see in the CMS. I've
>>>>> never attempted to do anything with those standard error templates.
>>>>>
>>>>> In this case it looks like OpenCMS is using
>>>>> /system/handler/handle404.html. Unfortunately, that is a JSP page that
>>>>> consists pretty much entirely of calls to variables defined elsewhere,
>>>>> so unless there's some modular way of changing the 404 behavior
>>>>> it's not
>>>>> going to be trivially easy to change. I can't figure out where the
>>>>> variables are defined, either.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I have time later today I'll poke around more, but this is my last
>>>>> day in the office before a week's vacation so I have a lot on my
>>>>> plate.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Among those of us who have access to the CMS, does anyone have access
>>>>>> above /sites/default/? That's all I can see. I hate to bother Ian
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> this sort of thing, but if none of us can actually edit outside that
>>>>>> area, we'll have to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14-02-27 03:43 AM, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26 Feb 2014, at 23:59, Martin Holmes <mholmes at uvic.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The question on whether the 404 page could be fixed up a bit still
>>>>>>>> stands, though -- I don't have access high enough up the tree in
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> CMS to see where it's coming from, but if one of you does, could
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> fix the spelling error ("occured")? And could we also think about a
>>>>>>>> page which matches the site design?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i agree, that 404 page makes us look unprofessional and
>>>>>>> disorganised.
>>>>>>> it comes up much too readily….
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Sebastian Rahtz
>>>>>>> Director (Research) of Academic IT
>>>>>>> University of Oxford IT Services
>>>>>>> 13 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 6NN. Phone +44 1865 283431
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Não sou nada.
>>>>>>> Nunca serei nada.
>>>>>>> Não posso querer ser nada.
>>>>>>> À parte isso, tenho em mim todos os sonhos do mundo.
>>>>>>>
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