[tei-council] Bug 506: examples for @corresp

[Martin Holmes]

Yes, you're right -- I was simplifying things to make an example, and I 
only did half the job. I'll make the ids LOND1, LOND2, GENI1 in the 
final version.

Cheers,
Martin

On 13-12-22 11:36 AM, Kevin Hawkins wrote:
> Yes, I like this example much better because of the
> non-interchangeability and correspondence, as you explain it.  And yet
> I'm confused by a few points of the markup.  Shouldn't the following:
>
> <person xml:id="LOND6" corresp="#LOND6 #GENI2">
>       <persName type="lit">London</persName>
>       <note>
>         <p>Allegorical character representing the city of<ref
> target="LOND5.xml">London</ref>.
>         </p>
>       </note>
> </person>
>
> actually be:
>
> <person xml:id="LOND6" corresp="#LOND1 #GENI2">
>       <persName type="lit">London</persName>
>       <note>
>         <p>Allegorical character representing the city of<ref
> target="#LOND1">London</ref>.
>         </p>
>       </note>
> </person>
>
> ?  (Note change in first string in @corresp and in value of @target.)
>
> On 12/22/2013 10:36 AM, Martin Holmes wrote:
>> I have aanother suggestion, adapted from the Map of Early Modern London
>> project:
>>
>> [In a placeography]
>>
>> <place xml:id="LOND1" corresp="#LOND6 #GENI2">
>>      <placeName>London</placeName>
>>      <desc>The city of London...</desc>
>> </place>
>>
>> [In a literary personography]
>>
>> <person xml:id="LOND6" corresp="#LOND6 #GENI2">
>>      <persName type="lit">London</persName>
>>      <note>
>>        <p>Allegorical character representing the city of<ref
>> target="LOND5.xml">London</ref>.
>>        </p>
>>      </note>
>> </person>
>>
>> <person xml:id="GENI2"" corresp="#LOND1 #GENI2">
>>        <persName type="lit">London’s Genius</persName>
>>        <note>
>>            <p>Personification of London’s genius. Appears as an
>> allegorical character in mayoral shows.
>>            </p>
>>        </note>
>> </person>
>>
>> It's impossible to argue that an allegorical character representing the
>> city of London, or a personification of its "genius", is interchangeable
>> with the physical city itself, and yet they "correspond in some way".
>> How does this look?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13-12-20 12:30 PM, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>> On 13-12-20 12:11 PM, Fabio Ciotti wrote:
>>>>> How about this one from the text of the Guidelines:
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/en/html/DR.html#DRSIM>
>>>>
>>>> Mhhh, this seems a perfect case for @sync.
>>>
>>> You're absolutely right. That example should be re-encoded with @synch.
>>>>
>>>> I prefer the rhyme example, but I agree it is rather complex and
>>>> technical... (and to be honest I think it is not completely correct to
>>>> state that the rhymes words in the third, forth etc sestines
>>>> correspond only the those in the first, and not to each other...).
>>>
>>> Agreed.<link>s would be better for this sort of multiple
>>> correspondence, probably.
>>>
>>>> What about this coreference encoding example (from Wuthering Heights
>>>> on TBE)? In know it's not an example of a very liberal usage of
>>>> @corresp, but since it includes possessive adjectives the coreferences
>>>> cannot be properly substituted each other.
>>>
>>> They do really look interchangeable, though; I'd hoped for something
>>> more unambiguously non-interchangeable.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>>
>>>> <p>For two months the fugitives remained absent; in those two months,
>>>> <name xml:id="lint">Mrs. Linton</name>  encountered and conquered the
>>>> worst shock of what was denominated a brain fever. No mother could
>>>> have nursed an only child more devotedly than Edgar tended<rs corresp
>>>> ="#lint">her</rs>. Day and night he was watching, and patiently
>>>> enduring all the annoyances that irritable nerves and a shaken reason
>>>> could inflict: and, though Kenneth remarked that what he saved from
>>>> the grave would only recompense his care by forming the source of
>>>> constant future anxiety — in fact, that his health and strength were
>>>> being sacrificed to preserve a mere ruin of humanity — he knew no
>>>> limits in gratitude and joy, when<name corresp
>>>> ="#lint">Catherine</name>'s life was declared out of danger; and hour
>>>> after hour he would sit beside<rs corresp ="#lint">her</rs>, tracing
>>>> the gradual return to bodily health, and flattering his too sanguine
>>>> hopes with the illusion that<rs corresp ="#lint">her</rs>  mind would
>>>> settle back to its right balance also, and<rs corresp
>>>> ="#lint">she</rs>  would soon be entirely her former self.</p>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>