[tei-council] whither HTML of Guidelines and @lang

[Hugh Cayless]

I was under the impression that quirks mode was triggered by the doctype
(or lack thereof). Use of the HTML5 doctype puts browsers into standards
mode afaik. For what it's worth, I ditched XHTML for my own work years ago,
and would advise against using it without some compelling reason.

Best,
Hugh
On Nov 23, 2012 8:31 AM, "Martin Holmes" <mholmes at uvic.ca> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> On 12-11-23 03:15 AM, Gabriel Bodard wrote:
>
> > Why do we need to validate the HTML output of the Guidelines? HTML5
> > doesn't even need to be well-formed XML (although it can be, and I like
> > it to be). As Sebastian was arguing earlier in the TEI-L thread on
> > @lang, the HTML is just a delivery medium, not something we need to
> > process or expect anyone else to re-use, right?
>
> I think this is a very dangerous point of view. If your XHTML doesn't
> validate, then browsers go into quirks mode, where they behave
> differently from each other. Anyone who remembers dealing with the
> miseries of different behaviour from different browsers should never
> want to go anywhere near it again. Validate, I say. Always.
>
> We've got by without @(xml:)lang for years, so implementing it for the
> Guidelines specifically is not a high priority. I think it should be a
> long-term goal to move towards XHTML5 (for which the W3C seems to have a
> good functioning validator, so it's possible), but we should move slowly
> and carefully.
>
> > If we produce HTML5 to the best of our ability, and don't get it all
> > right first time, what breaks?
>
> Personally, I use the Jenkins builds of the Glines in preference to the
> official release, so if they're broken for extended periods of time it's
> annoying. It's also hard to implement changes to the Glines in response
> to tickets when you can't see good working builds.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
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