[tei-council] @style /rend/rendition coexistence

[Lou Burnard]

On 05/10/12 20:45, Sebastian Rahtz wrote:
>
> On 5 Oct 2012, at 20:37, Lou Burnard <lou.burnard at retired.ox.ac.uk>
>   wrote:
>
>>> If I meet <hi style="font-weight:bold;" rend="italic">hello</hi>
>>> I guess I am just going to swallow nervously and generate
>>>    <span style="font-weight:bold; font-style:italic">hello</span>
>>> and
>>>   {\bfseries\itshape hello}
>>> etc
>>
>> I think that's the start of a very very slippery slope
>
> not sure why?

because you are mixing languages. it's ok to unify @rendition and @style 
values because they come from the same domain, but I dont think you can 
ever do that with @rend. Maybe my @rend="italic" means "uses a fair 
Italian hand"


>
>>
>>>
>>> but equally I dont mind being told that @rend wipes out @style/@rendition
>>> --
>>
>> "wipes out" in what sense? the attributes are all still there; it's up to your app what it does with them.
>
>
> ok, put it another way, @style and @rend are alternates. the encoder has kindly provided two different
> ways of describing what the source looks like, you can read whichever you like (but not process both if you
> are a stylesheet).

yes, i think I would agree with that. A stylesheet can of course do 
whatever it likes, but the idea that @rend is an ALTERNATIVE to the 
others makes good sense.

>
>
> did we ever decide what <hi rend="nice" rendition="#lions">hello</hi> means?
>

Well, if we agree on the above, it means that some aspects of the 
rendition of the source are "nice" and some others (possibly the same, 
but not necessarily) are described by whatever #lions is pointing to, 
possibly unified with whatever the default properties for <hi> are.


> oh what a tangled web we've woved for ourselves with this business.

I blame that J Walsh.