[tei-council] Consistency in attribute values

[Laurent Romary]

Like said in another post, I think the value "url" is misleading (as to its semantics). If I put http://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-00390966 in an idno, I would encode this as:
<idno type="HAL">http://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-00390966</idno>
and do the same with an arXiv reference, etc.
If on the contrary, the pointer is of the type "last retrieved from..." where the link has no other value as being a pointer to a page, place where the paper could be found, than I would definitely use 
<ref target="http://www.mholmes.com/cv/cv_web.xml"/>


Le 25 nov. 2011 à 14:54, Martin Holmes a écrit :

> I can list all the examples in context -- I think it's the context that matters here. I'll do that when I get to work.
> 
> Just out of interest, if an <idno type="url"> was inside a <bibl>, would it be right?
> 
> Cheers,
> Martin
> 
> On 11-11-25 05:50 AM, Laurent Romary wrote:
>> 
>> Le 25 nov. 2011 à 14:43, Martin Holmes a écrit :
>> 
>>> Found it. The "URL" version is in idno.xml itself.
>>> 
>>> So we have 120 instances of "url", and one of "URL". Do we change all the existing instances to "URL"?
>>> 
>>> I have lots of instances of<idno type="url">  in my projects, having just taken what I saw in the Guidelines as good practice.
>> 
>> This is exactly the point. Who in this council think that it is good practice? And that ref would not be a better choice. [letting aside the debate ref/ptr, OK]
>> 
>> @Martin: can you list all examples? and/or see whether they would be "real" idno's ?
>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
>>> 
>>> On 11-11-25 05:38 AM, Martin Holmes wrote:
>>>> We have 120 instances of<idno type="url">   (lower-case), and now I can't
>>>> find the one which is upper-case. Weird.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, I think if<idno type="url">   is wrong (in either case), that's a
>>>> fairly big change.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Martin
>>>> 
>>>> On 11-11-25 12:16 AM, Laurent Romary wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le 25 nov. 2011 à 09:14, James Cummings a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25/11/11 06:07, Laurent Romary wrote:
>>>>>>> Two answers on this: - organisation issuing their identifiers should
>>>>>>> have a policy concerning the way they appear (OTA should know whether
>>>>>>> they're OTA or ota, not us)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sure but I think martin's point is that we need to then be consistent
>>>>>> with them. When I worked for the OTA we generally referred to it in all
>>>>>> uppercase, OTA.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No problem with this.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If we have URL and url I'd have said also to go for URL.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think I disagree, if we have URL, we need to turn the idno's into ref's.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -James
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Dr James Cummings, InfoDev
>>>>>> Oxford University Computing Services
>>>>>> University of Oxford
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Laurent Romary
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>> Laurent Romary
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>> laurent.romary at inria.fr
>> 
>> 
>> 

Laurent Romary
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